id like to see the mog cap from pre ordering ARR go up on the mog station, I wouldn't mind throwing 20usd at that hat.
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id like to see the mog cap from pre ordering ARR go up on the mog station, I wouldn't mind throwing 20usd at that hat.
double the price of the stream ticket. Therefor people can buy it afterwards without those who bought the ticket feel cheated.
I think exclusive items should remain exclusive. As much as I like the moogle attire, I think it'll be a bit unfair if I was able to get it without actually being there for the event, or paying for it at the time it was active. That's just my opinion though.
I'll never understand the mentality of barring someone access to items somehow increasing enjoyment. If people are willing to pay for 2yr old cosmetic items, let them. Exclusive items obtained outside of the game are generally a bad idea imo for an MMO.
I wish assets in the game from promotional events and the likes would be made available to increase SE's profits and be re-invested into the game itself, making it possible to upgrade technology and hire new talent to improve and expand the game. Exclusivity be damned, if its more important to people to have something no one else can instead of increasing the game's longevity and improving it, then they don't deserve either.
Funny thing is, people who supported the game at the time (well before anyone making these demands) increased SE's profits. Through thick and thin we supported a game that received very poor reviews. We were repeatedly thanked, in messages from the devs and occasionally through in-game items. Only after the game was re-vamped did people start filtering in, and behold, started demanding the things the older players had. And here come the new players, telling us we're undeserving of our exclusivity. Sorry, you weren't here, not subbed or didn't pay for a stream at the time, you missed out and only have yourself to blame. It was available for everyone, but you chose not to. If you want to support the game like we did, how about you agree to pay, up front, all of the monthly subscriptions since the game started. You know, to support the game "and be re-invested into the game itself, making it possible to upgrade technology and hire new talent to improve and expand the game".
Doesn't this argument evoke the same entitlement people who oppose exclusivity are often criticised for? Not that I care one way or another, personally. I just find it a little odd you'll see people decry others as "just wanting everything because you think you deserve it (i.e. special)" only to defend their position by saying "I want it to be special."
Honestly? I'd consider paying the monthly subs from when the game launched to the point I started playing if it meant access to the exclusives. Guess I'd have to see what those were and if I cared for them. The Moogle Outfit doesn't really interest me, for example. Nor most of the minions for that matter. However, I -am- interested in seeing the game flourish and prosper. There are things I have that would probably be, 'Exclusive.' I do not care if other people have access to them. If they pay money for them, that's good for the game. If that means we see improvements like the drastic change that turned 1.0's flop into 2.0's success, I'm ALL for it.
Demanding those things remain exclusive so the game cannot be as successful, just for my personal hubris? That's just being selfish.
Still waiting for it. Every mogstation update I check it to see if they have decided to sell it there.
I'm okay with the legacy tattoo being exclusive, minions, mounts, even furnitures. But costumes and emotes? Why? I don't even care if they decide to charge $30 for it (even more than the fanfest). But not giving the option is really bad.
I am fine with the outfit being sold, but if they sell the Moogle Attire, then people will expect them to also sell the FFX items and other previous exclusive items like the 1.0 items. Lets not forget that some people got the Moogle attire, because SE told them that its acquired through fanfest/stream.
There is hope though, SE is known for caving in to demands if people complain enough . I would not be suprised if we see the Moogle Attire in the Mog Station in few years.:p
I disagree.
The whole special and rare thing is that because you paid for the event and rewards at the time they were on going, you got to enjoy them for two plus years before the general public get them. Is it really wrong for them to provide a second method to acquire them years down the road after the event has ended? For example, would it really be wrong for them to eventually add 1.0 exclusives to the cash shop? I mean, you still have to pay for them. The difference is that those who were around in 1.0 got to enjoy them early and they were exclusive for 4-5+ years before others get them. 5 years is a really long time to enjoy something. I don't really understand the special snowflake mentality that things have to remain exclusive for all eternity.
Wish all i missed can be in mog station. Like this costum
That's a huge double standard around here though. There's always gonna be the argument that 1.x exclusives are much more special and should always remain exclusive while 2.x and onward, exclusives should be made available and anyone else who says differently just wants snowflake status and don't want to be fair to the newer players who missed out. I'd have to agree with others earlier in the thread that it should be all or none. I don't care anything about the status, but I certainly don't want to feel like I'm being discriminated against or others are being held above me, or see that happen to anyone else. The 7-11 thing is bad enough.
Wow this thread is old. But I want to add in my 2 cents so, here it is.
I wish some "exclusives" were made available again even though the promotions have long passed, or expired (for example, I would really like for SE to start printing the Before Meteor and Realm Reborn OSTs with the codes for the Dalamud and Bahamut minions again; I would love that...I would gladly purchase those OSTs without codes because I absolutely love the music from this game, but they never seem to be in stock and I'm not paying $70 or whatever for an OST from an eBay seller >.>). However, that said, I do think there are some things that should retain their exclusivity. Mainly 1.0 items that only legacy players would have access to (legacy chocobo, Warrior of Light tattoo, to name the two major ones). Why? Well because these players paid for and supported a game that was the biggest flop for SE and the Final Fantasy series as a whole. They should at least get to retain these rewards as a thank you for supporting a game that was utter crap. I don't really think it's fair, and I do think it's "entitled", for those of us who have only played 2.0, or who came in during Heavensward, to start demanding we get exclusives given to players who supported a crappy game, where as we did not. Would be kind of a slap in the face to the 1.0 players.
I'm sure some people will think "You can't have half-and-half; it has to be all or nothing!" for exclusivity. But I think there's a difference between asking for SE to reprint promo minion codes (would prefer this to the Mogstation tbh), and asking SE to start handing out legacy rewards to people that have just started playing, or who never touched 1.0, and who wouldn't with a 10-foot-pole if it weren't for exclusives.
I think preorder bonuses/collector's edition bonuses should remain exclusive, too. As much as I want that Cait Sith Doll, I didn't preorder ARR, so why should I get access to the bonus content? Plus, it would probably hurt preorder sales to some extent, since there will always be those that purchase items for the DLC exclusives (see: plushie minions, OST minions, artbook minions, etc.). Why preorder for $59.99 USD when I could just buy the minion off the cash shop in a year or two? I can just pay $10 or whatever for the minion rather than $60 for a preordered collector's edition, and just pay for the basic game instead.. Of course, this is just speculation, but that's just my thoughts on it.
There are rare or limited time items in the real world why should it be any different in virtual game world? Calling people special snowflakes cause they have something you don't while demanding it be given to you doesn't make you any better then the people you think are being selfish by not wanting you to have what they have.
The outfit looks bad on all race except lalas (because they are small), Roe's look like pedo in it and the other races look off. Have a friend who has the outfit and i cringe every time he has it glamoured.
I support this thread and the X comments... really want the Yuna outfit but I can't buy it now and will a few months to save enough money (also Stormblood is coming so have to save money for that). The idea that I'll probably never have it (unless it goes on the MogStation) is a bummer, meanwhile new people can get all the 2.0 events except for the FFXI ones...
Somehow buying items with real money earns more exclusivity than actually playing the game :<
Why? I think they look funny and cute.
Eh, as someone who HAS these items I have no problem with newer players having the opportunity to get them; I don't need to rub my shiny exclusive items in everyone's face to feel special. As long as the prices are kept reasonable, I totally approve of them being added to the mogstation for those who want them. Alas, the prices mostly aren't reasonable...
Of course, the more people who are able to get these sorts of items, the more people are likely to ask for them to me made accessible at the calamity salvager or added into the armoire, so I can't say I don't have an ulterior motive here.
I don't care xD
Funny how people who disagrees and wants it to be "exclusive" gets more likes with empty argument.
Its like we never ever complained about getting "exclusive" china or japan glamours(eastern garb is one example).
Worked for? No one worked for it. They paid real life money. I am also pretty sure no one ever said "You will never get this item again."
But if people wanted to be reasonable two things should happen.
1) It should be the same price on cash shop as original cost. You got the extra and they get the item after.
2) All promotional real life paid for items should be available. A person could have any number of issues for not getting an item/stream. I don't think they should be punished.
Example. Person lives somewhere with limited space and its a pain to get item through customs. Does this mean they shouldn't get that silly odin emote? It costs over 100 dollars if someone wants to pay that for an emote and not get a statue. All these people say SE is here to make money. The only problem Is if SE said emote is unsalable due to contract with supplier(streamer event collaborator).
I don't see the big deal. My self worth isn't so tied up in the game that I need to feel special from in game items. I feel better about stuff earned through the game. If someone wants the shoes or gloves that I have from 11 or 10 I say let them. So if we say the legacy mark was earned (feels wrong but I will give you that). Just let people have a back tattoo anf make the legacy mark exclusive.
Very important. Out of all the MMOs I have ever played, FFXIV is by far the worst when it comes to 'limited', 'exclusives', 'one-time only', and 'promotions'. It's never, ever a good idea to limit such things. Even the gender limits on certain pieces. Those who already look ridiculous do so without all these restricted items. Also, people will never be happy that they got gated from items a lot of other people got due to unfortunate (often RL) circumstances. Especially when there will be a certain group of people that cannot get a hold of any of these items at the right time (I am looking at you Nordics and Eastern Europe). I hope SE reconsiders these types of campaigns. It might seem smarter to give a maid outfit instead of, say, 30k MGP, because being fair in-game, but I know a lot of people were saddened because maid outfit is just so good. And is it really that important to SE to amplify the special snowflake effect?
I'm really glad SE hasn't caved in to this, keep it exclusive and unique.
Like the Gobbue & Legacy Chocobo, I hope they keep the exclusive extras truly exclusive.
Maybe they will do like FFXI and release a similar, but different version: Nomad Moogle or something.
Excuse me but, no.
http://i.imgur.com/HQApgp8.png
Lol you screenshot looks pedo
They gave ample time for the 2014 live stream after they were over and now the same with the 2016-17 one. It seems its more of a personal issue and not really SE's issue.
Sorry no.
In this game where gear and other rewards for actually completing things becomes irrelevant in 1-2 patches there are too few exclusive items to brag about. Frankly, I love the occasional tell asking how I got my moogle glamour and compliments. If you weren't around to support the game/event at the time sorry. Try your best to keep up and stay active.
I don't understand the "being punished" for not having access to exclusives. I see it a lot in forums and posts regarding exclusive items. I literally do not understand it.
Don't get me wrong. I understand if someone says they're frustrated/angry/sad/disappointed for not having access to those things. I can relate mostly for frustrated and/or disappointed. But punished?
Someone's gonna have to break it down for me.
I don't feel superior to anyone because I have a wind-up Dalamud or a legacy chocobo, but part of what makes them special is that only a relatively small amount of players own them, and that proportion doesn't grow because they're no longer obtainable.
If you feel inferior to anyone because they have items you don't, that's entirely on you. Stop projecting.
Except when it's about the content of the game itself... *looks back at Coil, 2.2 extremes and the Lightning event*
If it's up until august I should be able to get it by then, however, I still think it's bad to limit the avaliability, anyone who doesn't knows or joins the game later won't ever be able to get them, just like the Mog costume.
By your very statement your self worth is tied to others not having things you have. You just used the word special instead of superior. Would you like me to edit my post to say special instead.
I have a bunch of the junk from 1.0 it doesn't make me feel special. It doesn't make the items special. They are digital items. Which can be lost tomorrow if the close the servers. I didn't earn them. They are not a sign of skill. They are a sign I have a mastercard, a steady job, a decent amount of disposable income, and been around for awhile. That is not something I feel special/proud/superior over others.
If they are willing to pay the same amount I paid what does it matter if one, ten, or everyone has an item?