Dyeable allagan gear thoughts.

I think every piece of gear should be dyable, personally.

Making old raid gear dyable would add a lot of fun to the game.

I hope it is crafting related.
I have millions of gil ready for the fending coat. I need it.

Well the new 'useful in raids' crafted gear is going to need models. My guess is it will be the Allagan sets. Considering it's supposed to be good enough to wear in a raid I expect that they will also be some work and cost to make.

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Originally Posted by FritoBandito

I think every piece of gear should be dyable, personally.

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Same! Would add a lot more variety into everyone's style if they unlocked dyeing completely.

I'd love to see the item required to unlock it drop in T6-9 savage level synced only lol

Personally I don't care about the option though I like the gear the way it is :)

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Originally Posted by FritoBandito

I think every piece of gear should be dyable, personally.

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I wouldn't be opposed to this but it would mean they would need to create a lot of new armour sets since crafted gear's main selling point is it's dyeability and often crafted gear is just old dungeon sets made dyeable.

Not sure they would do this unless they have hired a bunch of additional 3D modellers and artists.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Given these 2 facts, I'd say it's safe to assume they are just going to make all the existing gear dyable. I think people are over thinking this.

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It's almost certain they're going to be craftable because that's what they've already told us, though. They were asked about dyable Allagan stuff a couple Live Letters ago and they told us they were possibly going to add dyable, crafted versions of the sets, and then they later confirmed that the dyable Allagan stuff they mentioned in that Live Letter would be added in 3.2.

While they could just make the old versions dyable (it's not like they haven't done something different from what they originally told us before), at this point I'm skeptical that that's what they'll do.

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Originally Posted by Alahra

It's almost certain they're going to be craftable because that's what they've already told us, though. They were asked about a couple Live Letters ago and they told us they were possibly going to add dyable, crafted versions of the sets, and then they later confirmed that the dyable Allagan stuff they mentioned in that Live Letter would be added in 3.2.

While they could just make the old versions dyable (it's not like they haven't done something different from what they originally told us before), at this point I'm skeptical that that's what they'll do.

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If that's the case then I simply won't be getting them. I'm just done supporting anything that involves crafting on my server. No gear is worth the cost of a medium plot of land (which are the kinds of prices you see on the Siren marketboard)

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Ah, so basically you have no point. You're a crafter, and you want to make profit off of people who hate crafting. Got it.

Yeah, let's not rejuvenate an actual gameplay component (PVP) of this game that some people do actually enjoy, so that people who like to rip others off can make more profit for themselves.

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Right, cause crafting is totally not an actual gameplay component and nobody actually enjoys it.

You're a PvP'er, and you just want to farm easy kills/wins off people that hate PvP. Got it.

@OP - I'm assuming it'll be done how the dyeable AF gear was. You are required to have the actual armor piece, then you craft an additional item and trade both of them in for the resultant dyeable item (or perhaps just actually craft the dyeable version).

Yeah you've totally uncovered the mystery. Congrats.

I'm a healer in Maelstrom on the Aether data center which equates to people getting easy kills on me, and being a part of the Grand Company that loses the most.

Try again.

EDIT: I also fully support drops from the actual content (Coil) that it originally came from.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Right, cause crafting is totally not an actual gameplay component and nobody actually enjoys it.

You're a PvP'er, and you just want to farm easy kills/wins off people that hate PvP. Got it.

@OP - I'm assuming it'll be done how the dyeable AF gear was. You are required to have the actual armor piece, then you craft an additional item and trade both of them in for the resultant dyeable item (or perhaps just actually craft the dyeable version).

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I mean in all honesty, with the AF you did a quest. With Allagan you had to actually clear content and get a drop. I'd rather it not be based on crafting.

I mean I don't think it should be based on PVP. I think it should just be made dyable. But if it has to be based on something I'd rather it be based on you obtaining the drop itself from coil

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Yeah you've totally uncovered the mystery. Congrats.

I'm a healer in Maelstrom on the Aether data center which equates to people getting easy kills on me, and being a part of the Grand Company that loses the most.

Try again.

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The point of what I said was to show how ridiculous your statements were, honestly.

I mean, you basically claimed that crafting isn't part of the game.

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EDIT: I also fully support drops from the actual content (Coil) that it originally came from.

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I'm actually hoping you DO need the drops, so we'll enjoy a resurgence in glamour farming.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Ah, so basically you have no point. You're a crafter, and you want to make profit off of people who hate crafting. Got it.

Yeah, let's not rejuvenate an actual gameplay component (PVP) of this game that some people do actually enjoy, so that people who like to rip others off can make more profit for themselves.

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I'm a crafter... and don't want specialist anything in the game. So I don't think only those that craft can be in favour of that option, as like me, I'm in favour of anything BUT that outcome.

I'd wage war on every front to remove that filth from the game.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

The point of what I said was to show how ridiculous your statements were, honestly.

I mean, you basically claimed that crafting isn't part of the game.



I'm actually hoping you DO need the drops, so we'll enjoy a resurgence in glamour farming.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Please quote the statement I made where I specifically said that crafting wasn't gameplay. I was talking about rejuvenating PVP since queues are pretty much dead in the water.

Maybe next time you should try and make a point without having to implicitly twist someone's words to suit your statement.

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Originally Posted by Velox

If that's the case then I simply won't be getting them. I'm just done supporting anything that involves crafting on my server. No gear is worth the cost of a medium plot of land (which are the kinds of prices you see on the Siren marketboard)

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He is right....lol

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Right, cause crafting is totally not an actual gameplay component and nobody actually enjoys it.

You're a PvP'er, and you just want to farm easy kills/wins off people that hate PvP. Got it.

@OP - I'm assuming it'll be done how the dyeable AF gear was. You are required to have the actual armor piece, then you craft an additional item and trade both of them in for the resultant dyeable item (or perhaps just actually craft the dyeable version).

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And I guess we will find out...I'm crossing my fingers that it's not the new gear set and it's not class locked but I doubt they will take that route with it.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Oh, I'm sorry. Please quote the statement I made where I specifically said that crafting wasn't gameplay.

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Your statement didn't directly say that crafting wasn't gameplay, but the context, of your response to a poster suggesting they should be crafted items, clearly implies it:

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Yeah, let's not rejuvenate an actual gameplay component (PVP) of this game

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If PvP is an "actual [i.e., real] gameplay component," then in context, that means you're saying that crafting isn't one.

You may not have meant that, but if so, you didn't choose your words very well.

Yes, I did not mean that crafting wasn't gameplay.

People, chill and have a cup of whisky. :p

We all favor different aspects of the game, but there's no need to invalid other player's favorite. After all, no one likes it when something they like get bad-mouthed. What's more, going by SE history, unless they stand neutral on a topic, no amount of suggestions (or whining) will change their mind. So at the end of the day, all we can do is pray hard that it will arrive in a way we can accept, and if it doesn't, should we grind or simply ignore it.

I sincerely hope it's not PVP! So people who cleared coil and got drops are stuck with undyable version, but someone who never touched coil but plays PVP gets a better version?? Terrible.

They should either make the items themselves dyable to encourage more people to do the content, or require the gear plus an extra item for a similar effect. Coil has great fights and this would be a good way to encourage more people to experience them. It's not like any of it's hard if you all go in at level 60!*

*except perhaps t9, haha.

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Originally Posted by seida

I sincerely hope it's not PVP! So people who cleared coil and got drops are stuck with undyable version, but someone who never touched coil but plays PVP gets a better version?? Terrible

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Sounds just like; "People who PVP have never even seen an ADS why do they get the mount!!??" Cries from a couple years ago.

Square literally does what they want.

I have a thought.. probably not a good one but better than nothing: Since as many here & on forums are saying 3.2 is the new higher ilv patch & we need gear for all area's they could just make all Coil gear dyable AND make new PvP token & PvE crafted are also coil gear (not sure which coil gear crafted & PvP tokens would get) it would make old coil worth a return & add something for both PvP & Crafting to achieve (& charge high in crafting case to lazy/rich ppl)

*note: I am not a PvP player (looked at the vendors thou) & am not a "end game" Raider (got lucky/brave enouf to have a few 1st coil gear T1-5) but wouldn't that spread it around enouf to make everyone at lest semi-happy