Do we want FFXI glamor items?

I think the devs should focus a lot more on content before they do any more glamour's. In fact I say No more glamour's till they make a real horizontal progression system to gear. Only do glamour's for the events but there needs to be a better form of gear progression.

Cause that's really the first way to solve the inventory problems.

I would love to have the Arhat's Gi.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20090322161648

We've got a couple similar pieces now, but I like the style more in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I think the devs should focus a lot more on content before they do any more glamour's. In fact I say No more glamour's till they make a real horizontal progression system to gear. Only do glamour's for the events but there needs to be a better form of gear progression.

Cause that's really the first way to solve the inventory problems.

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How the hell are these two thing even related to each other?

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I think the devs should focus a lot more on content before they do any more glamour's. In fact I say No more glamour's till they make a real horizontal progression system to gear. Only do glamour's for the events but there needs to be a better form of gear progression.

Cause that's really the first way to solve the inventory problems.

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http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly...95k2o1_500.gif

Samurai
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Pics/MIsam.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I think the devs should focus a lot more on content before they do any more glamour's. In fact I say No more glamour's till they make a real horizontal progression system to gear. Only do glamour's for the events but there needs to be a better form of gear progression.

Cause that's really the first way to solve the inventory problems.

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We already have horizontal progression, in the form of i210 Esoteric gear, i210 Diadem gear, and i210 Savage gear. The problem with that is, if you make gear that's on par with raiding gear, or better than it, the raiders are going to complain unless it's 3-4+ after the raiding gear is out. Therefore we get no horizontal gear from the beginning to satisfy everyone.

They've been kinda already using designs from ffxi anyway. Wootz > Koenig or ares sets from ffxi just off the top of my head. I'm sure theres others.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

We already have horizontal progression, in the form of i210 Esoteric gear, i210 Diadem gear, and i210 Savage gear. The problem with that is, if you make gear that's on par with raiding gear, or better than it, the raiders are going to complain unless it's 3-4+ after the raiding gear is out. Therefore we get no horizontal gear from the beginning to satisfy everyone.

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I'm talking about gear that will be relivent for 3-4 patches instead of the reset on every new high end raid. This means they need to get rid of the item level in gear first.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I'm talking about gear that will be relivent for 3-4 patches instead of the reset on every new high end raid. This means they need to get rid of the item level in gear first.

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Then the game would get boring after we obtain that gear, and people will unsubscribe. Alternatively, the gear will be so hard to get that people will unsubscribe. Today's market is very different, you'll just have to live with that most people just don't want to deal with grinding a 1+ hour instance with a 0.01% drop rate on certain equipment anymore.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I think the devs should focus a lot more on content before they do any more glamour's. In fact I say No more glamour's till they make a real horizontal progression system to gear. Only do glamour's for the events but there needs to be a better form of gear progression.

Cause that's really the first way to solve the inventory problems.

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How is horizontal gear progression going to solve inventory problems? If anything would create more inventory problems. Horizontal progression encourages hoarding every little odd and end just in case it turns out to be useful in new content.

Horizontal progression gear also made more sense in FFXI because you could swap gear mid battle, so the level 75 piece that was best for regular attacks was different from the level 75 piece that was used during a weaponskill. Also, gear affected elemental damage, so a black mage would have all 8 of the elemental staves and would switch them out to match the element of the spell you're casting.

XIV's elemental system is completely different, and while some pieces of gear do affect it defensively, none of it is affected offensively. I don't think that's a bad thing.

And even FFXI eventually caved in and let you combine all your staves into one mega rainbow staff.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

I think the devs should focus a lot more on content before they do any more glamour's. In fact I say No more glamour's till they make a real horizontal progression system to gear. Only do glamour's for the events but there needs to be a better form of gear progression.

Cause that's really the first way to solve the inventory problems.

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Wow, you must be fun at parties.
This is a different topic you're trying to create from this thread's topic.

http://img-cdn.jg.jugem.jp/c03/47674...405_333431.jpg

Eisen Platte Armor Set.... Me want

This dancer outfit that Lilisette wears would be great glamour but would prefer it be dye-able so wouldn't have to be red.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...%28FFXI%29.png

I personally don't. I don't have anything against people wanting that, can truly understand why they would, but 8 years of FFXI.. I've had my fill and don't need anymore of it in a different game.

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Originally Posted by Roegadyn_Bear

The Zodiac subligars...

http://zam.zamimg.com/ffxi/i/images/...s-Subligar.jpg

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YESSS THE SUBLIGARS
I had a pair >_>;
http://33.media.tumblr.com/b0766c2a0...VEi1r0pv4m.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gaddes

YESSS THE SUBLIGARS
I had a pair >_>;
http://33.media.tumblr.com/b0766c2a0...VEi1r0pv4m.jpg

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Members of the Zodiac Subligar Brotherhood unite!

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

http://img-cdn.jg.jugem.jp/c03/47674...405_333431.jpg

Eisen Platte Armor Set.... Me want

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Oh yes! Definitely! I can't believe I forgot about this! I loved that armour when I levelled WAR originally in FFXI. It's such a beautifully designed set of armour that is quite unlike anything else in the game. :D

I'd like to see the AF armors from XI return as just glamour items for the jobs that were in XI (Sorry AST, but you don't get any unless AST and MCH share Corsair's lol).

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Originally Posted by Lexia

This dancer outfit that Lilisette wears would be great glamour but would prefer it be dye-able so wouldn't have to be red.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...%28FFXI%29.png

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It's pretty much the DNC AF with some alterations (namely the shoes and bangles)
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20081002042705
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20081002042529

But yes, it should be dyeable if it ever makes it in (preferably on the Dancer job if it ever makes it in ;D). Also the DNC Relic (AF2) looks great (it's almost just a recolor anyway, it has it's differences though).

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20081218175825

We kind of already have the subligar, the femina subligar anyway. The Bride's Maid Leggings. Shame it's not unisex...

I don't know, some of the later sets of gear looked pretty cool.
Here's the Empyrean gear for the jobs on XI.

Empyrean

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110311232319http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110305222614http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20101128041742

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110106164628http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110726010425http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110312171825

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110305205757http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110311232844http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110106163857

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110305223007http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20101207220347http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110311232634

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110305045802 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110331141825 http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110312170930

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110313141856http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110311231731 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110311232040

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110106165123http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20101209081317

In terms of "lack of detail" you guys are comparing a game that runs on PS2 to a game that runs on PS4. I mean... come on now.

Since there was an image count.
Here are the Salvage Sets. Note: Some of these are in game already.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130318144050

Artifact 2 sets. [doesnt include all of them] -Note: the first one is the wedding set.

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~esca/img/Yokotin3.jpg
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080916100553

Nyzul Armor

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070411001736 http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070411002630
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070403150615

GEO and RUN.

https://bucket.bluegartr.com/ff2eb11...27d4b4ec7f.jpg
http://tehkrizz.net/FFXI/images/GeoSets.png

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Originally Posted by Zephrey

In terms of "lack of detail" you guys are comparing a game that runs on PS2 to a game that runs on PS4. I mean... come on now.

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This. At least 1/3 of the monster and NPC (meaning things like Mamool and Qiqrin) models in this game are actually directly ripped from XI and just have a slightly upgraded texture for XIV, yet you don't see people complaining about that. In some cases, they don't even bother changing or expanding on the animations, such as the first boss in Pharos Sirius (Hard). Even Ravana, which I see a lot of people claiming as XIV's own, is basically just a heavily altered Naraka-model, it even uses the same battle style as that monster family does in XI! There's nothing saying similar things can't be done with equipment.

Honestly, I feel like half of the anti-XI sentiment on the OF is hating just for the sake of hating, rather than being logical.

On topic, I'd basically like everything from Salvage. No exceptions, just put it all in.

Everything from Aht Urhgan!

http://ffforever.info/pics/game/ffxi...ridah_peti.jpghttp://ffforever.info/pics/game/ffxi...ir_korazin.jpghttp://ffforever.info/pics/game/ffxi...git_gomlek.jpghttp://ffforever.info/pics/game/ffxi/equip/pahluwan.jpg

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Even Ravana, which I see a lot of people claiming as XIV's own, is basically just a heavily altered Naraka-model, it even uses the same battle style as that monster family does in XI!

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XI

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130327055720http://zam.zamimg.com/ffxi/i/images/...unt-Naraka.jpg

XIV

http://i1.2pcdn.com/2015/www/2015/05...v/artwork3.png

Add some bug wings and it's "totally" XIV original, right?
That right there, is a perfect example of how you can add more detail into previous XI content.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

We already have horizontal progression, in the form of i210 Esoteric gear, i210 Diadem gear, and i210 Savage gear. The problem with that is, if you make gear that's on par with raiding gear, or better than it, the raiders are going to complain unless it's 3-4+ after the raiding gear is out. Therefore we get no horizontal gear from the beginning to satisfy everyone.

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That something i don't understand, if you do raid, is not for the big shinies, but because you like raiding, the loot is a plus, and generally it have special skin and savor that can only be get like this, the fact to get gear outside raid that can be as good is irevelant with the need to do raid.... if people do raid only because they want to have the best loot, then, they are not raider!

Sorry to bump an old thread, I didn't want to make a new one when this one was so nicely done.

Can we get more FFXI glamours added to DoH books? I remember Yoshida saying the two sets added are just the beginning but I haven't seen any new sets added since :( well, the phoenix was added but I mean more traditional xi outfits like the ones posted in this thread.

As someone who plays DoM jobs, we don't have any XI gear except the phoenix one ; ;

Quite honestly I'd be more in favor for the newbie gear, especially monk gear for the poor ninjas and monks.

As for the higher level unique gear...I'm somewhat iffy on it. Some of the gear suggested really fit the theme of the expansions or areas they were in. For the new expansion it might work but eh. I'm always in favor of more heavier armor gear or the seers gear for mages.

I support this totally, XI had some really great looking armor at every level

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Originally Posted by LioJen

I support this totally, XI had some really great looking armor at every level

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yeah, I was hoping to see the salvage sets at least ^^

Depends! I was COR main, and I loved the Empyrean outfit. In particular, the head, chest, and legs:

http://blog-imgs-32-origin.fc2.com/s...ier/120901.png

DNC outfit was also nice, mainly the chest and legs:
http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/w/images...isArmorSet.png

Last, but not least, NIN; notably the chest and legs:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ithraninja.jpg

I'm bumping this, in hopes we get to see more of the FFXI armors added to this game. Especially classic AF armor sets and awesome crafted sets.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I'd like some of the custom rse...i'd like it even better if it wasn't race restricted.

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Race Specific Equipment that's not restricted to race lol?

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Originally Posted by Zoner

I always liked the Homam set

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps54b0dd89.png

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...pscptgymm8.png

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Lol i played FFXI for a long time i never seen that skimpy outfit before :P

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Originally Posted by RareItems

Lol i played FFXI for a long time i never seen that skimpy outfit before :P

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Tis a mod :3

it'd be nice if it wasn't gated behind eureka or unobtainable like the amatsu set

Give me Brigandine or give me death.

Preferably the Brigandine, though.