A tribute to a hero [SPOILERS INSIDE]

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Originally Posted by Reaver_Bharash

That part is actually explained in the second story from the Tales of the Dragonsong War: The Dreamer and the Dream

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...short_stories/

They are good reads. Wish they did more of these

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Yeah I am hoping there is more to it than what we read there. I liked the story but I am hoping there was more than JUST "Help me suicide bomb an airship to atone for my sins".

I'm sure that wanting to atone for what she felt was a wrongdoing was a part of that, though. She was definitely....very upset with herself when we left her.

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Originally Posted by Atamos

!!! HEAVENSWARD SPOILERS !!!

You probably already know who I'm talking about, after hearing this song I thought about Haurchefant right away so I had to make this little tribute, I hope you'll like it ! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqUSvdTn3_0

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`OOF` right in the feels ;~;

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

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Originally Posted by Reaver_Bharash

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Maybe she body jumped into Hraesvelgr, he's been mysteriously absent since her death. It's not like he hasn't had an Elezen lady in his soul before. We still don't know how the two of them came back to peaceful terms, she was obviously discussing SOMETHING with him before he took her to Azys Lla.

Any number of shenanigans can happen here, and are probably already written in.

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That part is actually explained in the second story from the Tales of the Dragonsong War: The Dreamer and the Dream

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...short_stories/

They are good reads. Wish they did more of these

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Yeah I am hoping there is more to it than what we read there. I liked the story but I am hoping there was more than JUST "Help me suicide bomb an airship to atone for my sins".

I'm sure that wanting to atone for what she felt was a wrongdoing was a part of that, though. She was definitely....very upset with herself when we left her.

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I'm really hoping they delve more into her as well. she was a likable character and I really hated what they did to her. she may have been misguided but she had a good heart despite what she wanted many to believe.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Tiny!Iceheart is pretty great...ever just sit and watch her poses?

Anyway, I think some people doubtlessly miss both. You can like more than one thing.

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I regularly sit on my bench in the FC garden just staring at Mini Ysayle while talking to FC/LS members.. I can sit like that for hours on end :)

I'm not crying, you're crying! -sobs-

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

I don't really understand the Haurchefant worship... As a female character, he fanboy'ed me from the first moment he appeared on screen, the way an irritating underclassman or an unwanted admirer might at school. He was overly personable, despite my character never reciprocating or even visibly accepting his behaviour, and then, when he died in a moment of forced cutscene mortality, I'm suddenly supposed to worship the ground he walked on?

Treading that line between MMO and RPG in an uncomfortable fashion.

Elsewhere...

You don't see this kind of worship for Ysayle...

Why is that?

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Ysayle's tragedy was well done. The way her world falls apart after learning the truth was heartwrenching and her last ride after composing herself and rebuilding that broken persona on Hraesvelgr was epic. But she got the Moenbroeda treatment and only got 1 patch for her to really hit home. Haurchefant was there to see you rise to become the hero from the lvl 40s. He assisted you through 2.5 and he took you in when you had nowhere else to go but Ishgard and was sort of that "last friend in a world that hates you and your companions." He protected you until the end. Both deaths were tragic but Ysayle's was sort of dampened by the fact that you fought her as Shiva and that she was a "villain" at some point.

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Originally Posted by Rafaelhades

Ysayle's tragedy was well done. The way her world falls apart after learning the truth was heartwrenching and her last ride after composing herself and rebuilding that broken persona on Hraesvelgr was epic. But she got the Moenbroeda treatment and only got 1 patch for her to really hit home. Haurchefant was there to see you rise to become the hero from the lvl 40s. He assisted you through 2.5 and he took you in when you had nowhere else to go but Ishgard and was sort of that "last friend in a world that hates you and your companions." He protected you until the end. Both deaths were tragic but Ysayle's was sort of dampened by the fact that you fought her as Shiva and that she was a "villain" at some point.

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I don't think Ysayle being an antagonist at one point dampens the tragedy of her death. I think it adds to her depth as a character and I really enjoyed traveling with her and getting to know her in Heavensward. It was fun, for example, that the woman who'd turned into Shiva and kicked my arse once was kooing over how cute Moogles are.

What made her death hit me less hard than Haurchefant's is probably that


a) Haurchefant died first. The death train kept strong after that but before him we hadn't lost anyone yet. In fact we learned one character presumed dead was still alive (Nanamo)
b) Like I said earlier Ysayle went down in a blaze of glory. It was a sad scene but also action-packed and epic. Haurchefant dies in front of our characters with us holding his hand and the animators managed to give him that expression of pure adoration that lights up his face when you smile for him. Then he's gone. The animation for faces in that scene was exceptional.


Adding to the impact of Haurchefant's death is, as you said, that we met him at lvl 35 in 2.0 and he'd been around ever since.

I think the reason he was killed off is simple, though. As a plot device he existed as our ticket into Ishgard so the expansion could happen. He had no purpose beyond this so once we were nestled in he was axed for drama. The writers have always seen him as a plot device but they gave him such a lovable and interesting personality that when the inevitable happened it huuuurt.

Funny how a game can make us care for characters so much. I was heartbroken when this happened and while he was one of my favorites and I'm sad to see him gone, this was awesome - even if it made me sniffle a little! :)

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

a) Haurchefant died first. The death train kept strong after that but before him we hadn't lost anyone yet. In fact we learned one character presumed dead was still alive (Nanamo)

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sorry but he wasnt the first to die it was moenbryda i dont know about others but i liked her as much as i liked haurchefant as for ysayle i think i never really bonded with her as much as i did with moen or haurchefant

btw the video is awesome thanks for it =3

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Originally Posted by ElieDavion

sorry but he wasnt the first to die it was moenbryda i dont know about others but i liked her as much as i liked haurchefant as for ysayle i think i never really bonded with her as much as i did with moen or haurchefant

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I mean in Heavensward he's the first to die.

Moen died in Realm. Up until Haurchefant's death in HW the expansion didn't seem ready to off anyone. The story beat that Nanamo survived further unprepared us.

Thank you everyone for the kind words, I'm glad you guys enjoyed it ! :o

amazing tribute ; ;

The leader of Tailfeather and Vidofnir both have their dialogue updated to talk about Ysayle after the events of HW :/
Do any other NPC's chat about her now?

I think the fact that they didn't show blood then Raubahns arm was chopped clean off, and yet we saw blood when Haurchefant died made it pretty shocking for me. Like a big "HE IS DEAD AND NOT COMING BACK!" scene.
And the reason why his death seems more tragic to me, is that he was more... I dunno, normal? I mean, he didn't have any magical powers, he was just a knight who was your No.1 fan... The fact that he was quite ordinary made him special to me... He gave some nice comedic relief from time to time too....
Him gone, makes the world seem so much darker for me somehow.

(That and I fangirled him probably just as hard as he fangirled my character. :D)

Whut whut whut whut whut!? Someone mentioned he likes you as a potential lover in other versions of the game!!?? Darn, I am jelly.



Who cares about seeing Aerith again in the lifestream, I wana see Haurchefant!

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Originally Posted by Eul

WHY THE RAISE/RESURRECTION/ASCEND ISN'T WORKING ON NPC?!

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>.< Because only Adventurers can come back from the dead, he didn't sign a special contract. (Log Horizon Reference)

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Whut whut whut whut whut!? Someone mentioned he likes you as a potential lover in other versions of the game!!?? Darn, I am jelly.

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Someone on tumblr had posted the German version of his death. When you take his hand he laments that when he finally able to be so near he can barely feel your touch before asking you to not be sad for him. Q_Q

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Someone on tumblr had posted the German version of his death. When you take his hand he laments that when he finally able to be so near he can barely feel your touch before asking you to not be sad for him. Q_Q

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Link plz? XD

Well, I dug around a little when it came to translations of Haurchefants dialogue in other languages.... Turns out he is soooo pervy when you first meet him in the japanese version XD

Stop commenting on my appearance and inviting me to your bed chambers!
(I play with the japanese cutscenes and I always wondered why my character would look so shocked by the things he said, when the english text was so harmless XD) (We also missed out on a hilarious Alphinaud-entering-the-room-and-cock-blocking-Haurchefant scene)

:< I like him even more now, and now I am even -sadder- that he's gone...

People were asking for actual blood to appear in the game... but...
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/...1042-post-.gif
To my knowledge, this is the first cutscene with actual blood in the game :|

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

(That and I fangirled him probably just as hard as he fangirled my character. :D)

Whut whut whut whut whut!? Someone mentioned he likes you as a potential lover in other versions of the game!!?? Darn, I am jelly.



Who cares about seeing Aerith again in the lifestream, I wana see Haurchefant!

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Well as we know when Haurchefant lays dying in the English version he says "You...you are unharmed? F-Forgive me... I could not bear the thought of...of... Oh, do not look at me so. A smile better suits a hero..."

In German it's "Odd…We’re finally so close, and yet ...I can hardly feel you… Now, don’t be sad… It doesn’t suit you…my hero…"

It gives the impression that he's been longing to be close to you but hasn't been until that moment. And that moment IS the very first time we see the Warrior of Light touching someone. Touch is usually a big no in this game due to the insane size differences between playable races.

After he dies a number of NPCs, including Aymeric, comment on how they knew he was special to you in particular.

Aymeric: Haurchefant … I know, the two of you were close … Excuse me, I do not mean to be indiscreet...

Darn this game. Making me mourn pixels.

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Originally Posted by Atamos

!!! HEAVENSWARD SPOILERS !!!

You probably already know who I'm talking about, after hearing this song I thought about Haurchefant right away so I had to make this little tribute, I hope you'll like it ! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqUSvdTn3_0

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While this kind of music is not exactly my style, it's nice of you to have made this video.

A while ago I was checking my liked videos on youtube, and suddenly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ir8rVl2Z4

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Originally Posted by Billy Boyd

I saw the light fade from the sky
On the wind I heard a sigh
As the snowflakes cover
My fallen brothers
I will say this last goodbye

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Oh how I weeped...

Edit: Damn it, I'm crying again...

Why did they have to kill him ? ;-; Anyone else but him... ;___;

They did hint at his demise in subtle ways. Him bragging about leaping on to an airship and cheating death...I got worried for him starting there.

One thing I noticed is he becomes increasingly accepting of his own death the closer you get to the Vault.

If you are a terrible person and let him die in the duties where he fights alongside you

Witchdrop: "No, it cannot end like this...It mustn't...."
Sea of Clouds: "If this is to be the end...."
Ishgard: "As long as you yet live, my friend...."

It's like part of him knows.

Who's cutting Thavnairian Onions?