Emotes in the cash shop..

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Oh, just to put it in perspective:

To my knowledge, there's still no way to get the /throw emote from Christmas 2013. . . no one's complained.
Lightning Returns hairstyles and costumes are still not available. The weapons are STILL not available even from the Calamity Salvager. . . no one's complained.
You DO have to pay for wedding clothing and /embrace. . . no one's complained.
/fistbump, Twintania, and the Draught Chocobos all require networking in real life to obtain. . . Pretty sure no one complained all that much about that either.

STOP COMPLAINING!

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...do you even read the forums or just pop in to post something you feel like posting?

Don't actually know about the /throw emote tbh, but I wouldn't be surprised if we could find at least one thread about it. But just guessing.
There have been too many threads about bringing back Lightning Returns event to even count. Or to make the rewards available at least. So much so that one still pops up about every two weeks, if not more often. Check your facts.
Quite a lot of people complained, actually, in quite a few threads, when we learned that most of the stuff they had shown off about EB in live letters was actually pay-only. Check your facts.
The new recruitment campaign rewards have also birthed numerous threads about their unfairness/stupidity. I'm sure some more will still pop up a little later. Check your facts.

STOP BEING IGNORANT! Or at least check your facts before trying to ignore them because they don't suit your point of view.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Same. I didn't pay a dime for it, though some people choose to "refer" themselves an alt account.

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Yup. A couple friends and I that played WoW would do the self referral all the time for anything we wanted that was RAF. It helped to get a free month on the main account at least. It's just sad that people apparently think that's the ONLY option, and so they have to view it as more money they need to pay so they complain lol. So pathetic to view it that way.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I didn't pay a dime for Twintania, and those that used my codes payed for a game they obviously wanted to play, and had to pay 2 play for anyways.
So in that regard Twintania is more of less "free".

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Same. I didn't pay a dime for it, though some people choose to "refer" themselves an alt account.

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Yes...
Someone else had to pay it for you to get it basically...but for it to be our first endgame raid it coulda been set in savage and
a different mount entirely from RAF. Twin was hell in 2.0 lol.

If any emote should be in the Cash Shop it should be a emote worth only money and nothing is worth money than a ...

"Take my gil!" Emote (aka /takemygil )

It was my understanding that the Lightning Returns event was done twice for the Japanese release, then again for the US/EU release.

And let me clarify as someone who heavily enjoys glamours and vanity gear that I'm not saying it's not important. If people want it that bad but missed out the first time, they'll pay for it. Business 101, and let's not pretend they're not running a business here. Hell, primal mounts are vanities I can get in game and I don't have one still because I don't WANT one. I don't even like FATES, but I'll do these because I like Moonfire Faire and I want the gear.

1 euro for a vanity emote aint terrible. I have played nonstop and received all the unique items, and I would rather pay 1 euro for a unique item on the store rather than have Square Enix repeat the same Events ingame over and over, like Lightning Event that people are begging for due to the gear and hairstyles

If you dont agree with the MOG store, you are not being forced to fork over the money. Play the game and earn it ingame when it is current content, problem solved ;)

Something I always wondered if you buy the item from the cash shop from a previous event will it be available from the calamity salvager afterwards?

Ok, this is purely for you, BreathlessTao:

First, don't start a rebuttal asking about checking facts then immediately admit you don't know about something. Terrible opener.

Next, I'm well aware of all the threads and requests for the LR event to come back. I did the original, and because of that, could NOT get anything from the 2nd run. At all. By most of the logic here, I can complain, right? If they add it to the cash shop, weapons and all, then I get to complain because I actually DID the event, right?

Same goes for the Valentione gear. . . I had to earn it the first year. People just bought it the next year, THEN they got to dye it too! I want my total subs between those events back.

This is obviously not serious. But I'm trying to put things in perspective. We're all entitled to nothing. Yet SE is providing at least an option to not miss out. Maybe it's not what you want or HOW you want it, but isn't it better than missing out entirely?

/bombdance was a Seasonal Event Reward and fits within the category of Seasonal Rewards being redistributed in the Mog Shop after a period of exclusivity immediately after the event.

We have received several emotes as simple patch additions before this occured, and no precedence has been broken here.

False Alarum.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

To my knowledge, there's still no way to get the /throw emote from Christmas 2013

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http://xivdb.com/?quest/66846/Toss-Fit-Workout

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Toss_Fit_Workout

I kinda figured the emote would be in the cash shop. Does it suck? Yeah. Should we have been able to obtain it in game this year? Yeah. Did I buy it though? You bet I did. I'd wanted this dance since 2.0. I wasn't able to get it since I didn't play 1.0 and personal issues had me unable to play the game almost all of last year. I'm happy I have it now but I really do wish I could have got it in game instead of paying real money for it.

People need to understand this is a business. SE is a company and all companies wants to get profits and max all their profits whenever they see an opening. Vanity in our life IS NOT important BUT we DESIRE it and WANT it. If you want to rebel/uprise against an idea, you need to look for people with your same principals and group and say to the company what you will do if something is not changed.

I say make a petition and look for signatures and send a business mail/email. If they don't listen to you and the rest of the ppl it means, they don't see enough menace to their strategies to make them stop what they are doing and they are actually getting a positive response from their consumers.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I pay good money every month, this cash shop is a slap in the face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Before when old event stuff could be bought ingame for gil players complained that New players that missed it last year could get it basicly for free and that the rarity of the items was gone and wished people that missed it would not be able to get them, as once it's done it's done.

See the pattern here? No matter how you do it, there will always be people complaining that it's not the right way.

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Yeah except the "I don't want other people to have what I have crowd" are functional 8 year olds and their opinion should be ignored.

Get over it. Did you play this game a year ago when the Yukatas were given out in the event? No? Too bad. Be glad SE is letting you buy them. I would be livid if they kept recycling old event rewards every year just to give them to new ppl.

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Originally Posted by KarmaCha

Get over it. Did you play this game a year ago when the Yukatas were given out in the event? No? Too bad. Be glad SE is letting you buy them. I would be livid if they kept recycling old event rewards every year just to give them to new ppl.

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Gil vendors, perhaps you heard of them?

I wonder when/if they'll put the "huzzah!" emote in the shop?

Anniversary is nearing

So I just started playing like 4-5 months ago.

Will there be no special obtainables for this event this year? I just have to buy last years?

Or will there be new stuff?

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Originally Posted by SirShuffles

So I just started playing like 4-5 months ago.

Will there be no special obtainables for this event this year? I just have to buy last years?

Or will there be new stuff?

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New accessory and one piece swim suits is confirmed for this year event.

I would pay for a facepalm emote!

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Originally Posted by SirShuffles

So I just started playing like 4-5 months ago.

Will there be no special obtainables for this event this year? I just have to buy last years?

Or will there be new stuff?

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The cycle goes as thus.

New items for each new event this year. These items will be exclusive to this event until the next year, same time, similar event. The old event items go on sale in Mogstation shortly before the new items from the current event become available (through said event.)

In short:
New stuff stays exclusive for a year, then goes on sale a year later when we get more new stuff and last year's is old.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

The cycle goes as thus.

New items for each new event this year. These items will be exclusive to this event until the next year, same time, similar event. The old event items go on sale in Mogstation shortly before the new items from the current event become available (through said event.)

In short:
New stuff stays exclusive for a year, then goes on sale a year later when we get more new stuff and last year's is old.

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Hmm.
So if people can just get new stuff why is it a big deal?
Then you'll have the new stuff and next year when new players can buy it with money you can complain.

I fail to see the problem here

I personally hate the cash shop. I've been playing since beta, and before the shop came around they would just have an NPC sell the old event stuff for a couple of gil in game. Then the new stuff would be earned free thru questing. I don't understand why they can't continue that. Why now do I have to pay real money for old event items that i could get in game before from an NPC for some gil? It's unfair to new people. Especially since you pay real money for something and it doesn't even go to all the characters on the account.

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Originally Posted by Lumina

Event rewards are offered in game for free during the event. If you aren't subscribed during the event period or join the game after the event is over, why would you expect to get those items? Heaven forbid anything actually be special in this game.

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This is simply not how it has worked in the past. I am expecting SE to continue what they have done in the past, not asking for something new.

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Originally Posted by KarmaCha

Get over it. Did you play this game a year ago when the Yukatas were given out in the event? No? Too bad. Be glad SE is letting you buy them. I would be livid if they kept recycling old event rewards every year just to give them to new ppl.

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Actually yeah, I did play the game a year ago when the yukatas were given out. Just not on the character I'm playing now.

Did you forget that for a year, we had old AND new event gear available on the event vendors for gil? You people act like we're asking for the moon, when we're really expressing displeasure at SE changing a system that worked perfectly.

I'll chime in on the subject:

While it is nice to get those items available in some ways, the problem with the cash shop is as far as I know it isn't account wide. When I bought a pet in WoW, all my future characters got it. I read the minions and probably clothing you have to chose a character. Now that is the problem I have with it.

And while we are talking about the cash shop, why not put those items you had to buy a physical item there? I couldn't care less about the soundtracks or art book or plushies, but I'd like the minions.

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Originally Posted by SirShuffles

Hmm.
So if people can just get new stuff why is it a big deal?
Then you'll have the new stuff and next year when new players can buy it with money you can complain.

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Personal preferences, mostly. Some people have the idea that is something is released in game for free, it should stay free.

I can see the idea, but it kills any pretense of exclusivity. I'd rather have the items be one-time-only but I'm ok with them re-releasing them with a pay wall.

It's additional fluff, hardly anything to cry over.

(didn't know if this was said yet or not) To me past years items of said event should be sold in game during the events, like this moonfire event items from last years should be sold in game, then after or before the events they could be sold on the MS, I would like to have the past years items for my new alts but I'm not willing to pay RL cash for them in a P2P game if it was a F2P then maybe...

Didn't bother me at all I feel like people are over dramatic about cash shops. They are OPTIONAL. Nobody is making you buy anything and the items aren't even that expensive. Seen games charge a lot more for special emotes paying like £1 for it is about as much as a candy bar and I get to keep the emote. It's seriously one of the most inexpensive cash shops I've seen for any game. The most expensive thing was a mount and I've seen game shops charge double that for a mount.

Is SE not making enough money? Extra inventory space already costs RL money

The best would would have been it wasn't possible at all to get that stuff.
You didn't play back then? Well too bad you don't get it.

Then we would have thread after thread "Please put them in the cashshop SE, i pay real money for it!"
So they basically just skipped a step.

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

Is SE not making enough money? Extra inventory space already costs RL money

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The answer to that question is always. "No." Money isn't something that just sits still. It gets used up pretty quick. Raking in more means you can do more with it, even if we the players of FFXIV don't always see the end result of that.

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Originally Posted by Assirra

The best would would have been it wasn't possible at all to get that stuff.
You didn't play back then? Well too bad you don't get it.

Then we would have thread after thread "Please put them in the cashshop SE, i pay real money for it!"
So they basically just skipped a step.

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This completely mirrors my thoughts on the matter.

Actually, in keeping with what Assirra said, people DID ask to be able to purchase older seasonal items they missed a while back. So there's that.

Do we (the community as a whole) even know what we want anymore?

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Actually, in keeping with what Assirra said, people DID ask to be able to purchase older seasonal items they missed a while back. So there's that.

Do we (the community as a whole) even know what we want anymore?

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Some people say "please put in cash shop" in those threads and immediately other people say "ugh why are you asking for them to charge you more." So, it isn't as if every person is asking for something to be added to the cash shop and when it gets added suddenly people show up to complain. It's just that this battle between those who see it as a cash grab and those that don't mind SE charging for extra stuff has been ongoing since the cash shop's inception. Everyone eventually moves on when a new hot topic shows up, and SE is happy to just let you guys fight it out until then.

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Originally Posted by Lyaha

That suddenly makes this all right?

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Yes.

We were subscribers a year ago and we got a stupid dance out of it. If you didn't pay for it then, you're paying for it now.

Wither I agree or not- is pretty irrelevant, but as long as people continue to purchase said items from the cash shop, it's going to happen. I think we would all be surprised on how many people have no issues with it. So this will continue, all the purchases they recieve > our complaints on the forums and thats reality. That being said.

SE, selling emotes.. really? lol >.>

Btw I really don't think this needed another thread, i mean really :)

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Originally Posted by Almalexia

We were subscribers a year ago and we got a stupid dance out of it.

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It's not stupid dance what the hell? It's like Tanabata dance to celebrate summer season in Japan.

Did I say stupid dance? I meant to say

stupid dance.

Yall get pretty worked up over $2.