The Great Gubal Library has a book on Lady Amandine which is chonrologicly wrong?

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Originally Posted by FJerome

She's described as a "wealthy Duskwright" in the dungeon description for Haukke Manor in the Duty Finder. Maybe House Dartancours is actually originally from Ishgard and not Gridania?

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Aha! Thank you very much. Turns out that's the only mention of it, too. I feel like it's the things in the most obvious places that easiest slip my mind, sometimes, lol. Amandine could easily have been basic Gridanian Duskwight, they're just much fewer in number than the Wildwoods since the post-Gelmorran schism. Duskwights in general seem to be pale because they never returned to the above-ground way of life and spurned the city-states. My first guess is that Amandine is just one of those that returned to the fold, so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Aha! Thank you very much. Turns out that's the only mention of it, too. I feel like it's the things in the most obvious places that easiest slip my mind, sometimes, lol. Amandine could easily have been basic Gridanian Duskwight, they're just much fewer in number than the Wildwoods since the post-Gelmorran schism. Duskwights in general seem to be pale because they never returned to the above-ground way of life and spurned the city-states. My first guess is that Amandine is just one of those that returned to the fold, so to speak.

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The thing is we've seen Isghardian Duskwright nobles . . . well, okay, we've seen Jandelaine and his brother Guillesfresne, we know that they're from a branch family of House Dzemael, and while we haven't seen any of the main branch of House Dzemael directly we do know that they were building themselves a swanky fortress within natural caves before all those voidsent showed up and ruined everything.

ETA: That said in the flashback to the Knights Twelve the Dzemael ancestor is clearly Wildwood, so if there is Duskwright blood in the main line it married in later.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

(Bonus: Amandine is a French name given to various substances containing almonds, though it could also just come from Amanda, which means loveable or worthy of love and seems to fit better with her story.).

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Actually, it is a farely common first name in French, indeed coming from Latin Amandus,-a :). It also seems to be a variety of potatoes, although even as a Frenchman, I did not know that!

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Originally Posted by FJerome

The thing is we've seen Isghardian Duskwright nobles . . . <...> That said in the flashback to the Knights Twelve the Dzemael ancestor is clearly Wildwood, so if there is Duskwright blood in the main line it married in later.

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For what it's worth, here's what I've been using for reference points:

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Originally Posted by 1.0 Exposition NPC

We Wildwood are descended from the first Elezen to settle in the deep wood. We ourselves have lived amongst the trees for nigh on nine hundred years. (~672|6A) <...> The Duskwight are cousins to us Wildwood, and the same blood of the first Elezen courses through both our veins.

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Originally Posted by Lodestone

The forests, of which the Black Shroud is the tangled heart, have been home to the Wildwood Elezen for hundreds of years. Many of the Wildwood, however, have been drawn to the city-states they helped found, such as Ishgard and Gridania. Their fondness for law and order has contributed to a reputation for being haughty and argumentative.

For the past several centuries, the Duskwight Elezen have lived in the woodland caverns of Eorzea. These cave-dwelling Elezen are the descendants of a branch that split from the main Wildwood clan during the founding of Gridania. The Duskwight despise the "shackles" of urban life, and it is not uncommon for this reclusive people to avoid the city-states altogether.

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Originally Posted by Yasminou

Actually, it is a farely common first name in French, indeed coming from Latin Amandus,-a :). It also seems to be a variety of potatoes, although even as a Frenchman, I did not know that!

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I did not know that, either. Thanks for the addendum :D

On a related note, is the text on the Demon Tome decipherable? I know somewhere there was a guide to how to read the Eorzean letters but I forgot where it is. I'm kinda curious as to what it says.

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Originally Posted by Ninster

On a related note, is the text on the Demon Tome decipherable?

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Yes and no. Here's a thread detailing it. The texture the monster team needed for the book didn't require that anything meaningful actually show up on the page since it was "just" a boss, not a lore bomb, or anything.

However, Koji Fox (Fernehalwes) did go through the trouble of making sure that it was both readable and contained something for people to find if they stared at it long enough. It has roots from several languages (including in-game ones, such as Dragonspeak), seems to mention various things in the world of XIV, and includes easter eggs like a throwback to Tolkein and a shout-out to Cthulhu.

Have we found everything worth finding in it? Ehhh... you never can be sure.