Request: Can we have Chat / Emote Bubbles?

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Originally Posted by kyuven

2) Have it off by default. Then the majority of people wouldn't use it or know it exists. So you'd develop and test something that barely anyone would use.

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Going by that logic we might as well not have any options for our UI or other various settings at all. We should probably toss out PvP development while we're at it. Maybe fishing too.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

http://www.swgemu.com/archive/scrapb.../imppilot9.jpg

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Exactly the one I described as being against.
I'm glad we at least cleared that up.

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Are we playing two different games here? FFXIV has those chat bubbles already.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5448/...d5899586_b.jpg

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Yoshi-p said that he does not like the idea of chat bubbles it's too cartoony and FFXIV is more of a high fantasy look game.

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Well that's weird..

(points up)

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

http://www.swgemu.com/archive/scrapb.../imppilot9.jpg

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The Nostalgia O.o That was my first MMO, Dark Jedi Knight Pre patch 1 reporting in :D

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Originally Posted by Gyson

And if you don't ever have to see it because it's an optional toggle, why does it matter?

I think the people running around in glamored underwear and wedding outfits 24/7 look ridiculous. And yet, unlike the chat bubbles that are being requested, I can't avoid seeing that nonsense with a toggle.

People saying: "Wouldn't ever use it, wouldn't want that stuff on my screen, so I'd never toggle chat bubbles on." - that's a valid opinion. People suggesting nobody should have access to the feature, though, are just being odd. Do you guys run around in discussions for colorblind players vetoing everything you would never want to use?

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I wouldn't use it, therefore those of you who would, should not have it as an optional option that you opt-in to just because I don't like it. So there!

wings thread all over again. except the responses against are even worse this time. wow... I don't like chat bubbles either.. but why would you be against something that you can turn off and some people want? some people... i swear...

Probably because some of us have seen how bad they can get, especially in the hands of the immature masses that also push for open world duels and other things that (s)couldn't possibly be used as a means to annoy people (/s).

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Probably because some of us have seen how bad they can get, especially in the hands of the immature masses that also push for open world duels and other things that (s)couldn't possibly be used as a means to annoy people (/s).

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things that you can turn off? how can possibly things that you can turn off be annoying? how is that comparable to open world pvp duels (that unlike chat bubbles and wings i would actually like to see, but i will grant you could not be turned off and might be annoying to some people)

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Originally Posted by kehn

things that you can turn off? how can possibly things that you can turn off be annoying? how is that comparable to open world pvp duels (that unlike chat bubbles and wings i would actually like to see, but i will grant you could not be turned off and might be annoying to some people)

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It takes development dollars to make something like this. In my view they are better off spending money elsewhere.

sounds like your view against the OP's .... in math that argument is negated.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

It takes development dollars to make something like this. In my view they are better off spending money elsewhere.

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Clearly from the pictures I posted above the tech for chat bubbles is already in place. The bulk of the development is in adding new customization option to the UI settings.

I'd rather have development dollars spent there than on making the goobbue mount fly.

Could be nice occasionally, when you're in a quiet area holding a conversation with a couple other people and nobody else is around. But in any populated area, it would just turn into a clusterfuck of screen clutter, most of which is RMT spam. So if they do ever decide to add it, I hope they add an easy way to toggle it on/off (a keybind or macro command, maybe) and not just a checkbox you have to dig through the character configuration window to find.

I love this idea. And for those who don't have an option to disable. Done! Everyone happy! /dance!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGLx4zzMdRA

i would love it and make it toggle for those who don't like it :3 then boom you satisfy both lots of people :D

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Could be nice occasionally, when you're in a quiet area holding a conversation with a couple other people and nobody else is around. But in any populated area, it would just turn into a clusterfuck of screen clutter, most of which is RMT spam.

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Normally speech bubbles only show text spoken locally (i.e. with /say), and even then only render up to a short distance and persist for a handful of seconds. Unless you have dozens of people all standing within a few feet of you and all speaking with "/say" at roughly the same time, I don't seeing it becoming a cluttered mess like some of the intentionally exaggerated examples shown in this thread.

speaking of things to turn off... i wish i could turn off macro text... like if a text in the chat log comes from a macro just turn it off... talk about annoying things that are already in the game.

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Originally Posted by kehn

speaking of things to turn off... i wish i could turn off macro text... like if a text in the chat log comes from a macro just turn it off... talk about annoying things that are already in the game.

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They are already in the game, just turn them on for players too. =)

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Chat and Emote bubbles (comic book style) are a cool part of the game that I would love to have. It is some times very hard to see what people are saying and the bubbles over peoples head has always made it much much easier. Its a lot better then always looking in the corner.

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I'll admit that I do miss this kind of thing from other MMO's, but what you don't realize is that RMT LOVE this this feature and will place their spammers near every spawn point in the game and just spam non-stop on top of the existing tellfriendspam.

Any implementation of this has to work exactly like the NPC version, which means you don't see it unless they are 8 yalms or less away. The mechanics for it are in the game, it's just a matter of how much UI cruft that can run. Having stuff like this running is memory intensive because it has to have two copies of the chat, one for the scrollback and one for rendering the comic bubble, and then has to hold the second copy until the player stops talking. Someone who chats rapidly will quickly occupy all the available screen space in congested areas.

Not opposed to it, but let's not give the RMT any more tools with which to annoy us.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'll admit that I do miss this kind of thing from other MMO's, but what you don't realize is that RMT LOVE this this feature and will place their spammers near every spawn point in the game and just spam non-stop on top of the existing tellfriendspam.

Any implementation of this has to work exactly like the NPC version, which means you don't see it unless they are 8 yalms or less away. The mechanics for it are in the game, it's just a matter of how much UI cruft that can run. Having stuff like this running is memory intensive because it has to have two copies of the chat, one for the scrollback and one for rendering the comic bubble, and then has to hold the second copy until the player stops talking. Someone who chats rapidly will quickly occupy all the available screen space in congested areas.

Not opposed to it, but let's not give the RMT any more tools with which to annoy us.

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Why not have it control how far away you see it? Letting people adjust it to their leasure? Or even turning it off? Sure I admit it probably can get bad. However if they are spamming chat, and not just tells its much easier to track their RMTing and they will get banned faster.

You should never use an unintended thing as an excuse not to implement a feature though.

I'd love chat bubbles over peoples head when they talk, but only on certain conditions.

1. The ability to toggle them on and off in the settings. If some people would prefer not to have them, they can disable it. Don't ruin ti for everyone else though.
2. At this point in time, even PS3 users should realize their own limitations, but that should NOT hold the game back. SE is eventually going to have to cut feature support for the PS3 all together, so they may as well start somewhere. Give it to PC/PS4.
3. Different settings for it in general, such as:

-Toggle whether or not chat bubbles will display in combat
-Toggle what kind of chat bubbles you'd like to see, such as general, yell, shout, fc, LS, etc.
-Toggle whether or not they will display in crowded areas. Any area with over a certain amount of people in a small area for example, they wont display. But distance yourself from that area of people and they will begin displaying around you.

And whatever else.

p.s. Using RMT as an excuse to not add things to the game is getting a little old by now, get over it and move on.

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Originally Posted by Naria

Hey I'm just saying what the dev response was (I believe it was in a live letter?). I think they like to keep the UI's as similar as possible between the versions. There are things I'd love to have, like a party TP bar, that they said they have not implemented because of the PS3 (although they are trying to figure out a way to do a TP bar for all versions).

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Couldn't they just swap MP with TP bar for classes that rely on either MP or TP.

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Originally Posted by Kirito

Couldn't they just swap MP with TP bar for classes that rely on either MP or TP.

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No, because there are classes that rely on both to a degree, possibly more so with the 3 new jobs coming out. They could have whatever they think the class uses more displayed, but that's just sacrificing 1 thing for another, and not everyone may be happy about that.

Bards use TP for Damage, MP for support, so it'd be more personal preference in what they'd want to have displayed.

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Originally Posted by Ditto

At this point in time, even PS3 users should realize their own limitations, but that should NOT hold the game back. SE is eventually going to have to cut feature support for the PS3 all together, so they may as well start somewhere. Give it to PC/PS4.

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I've also heard that SE wants to keep the UI similar on all the platforms. It's an important consideration in some cases. For instance, if the triple HP/MP/TP bars in the party list were available on some platforms but not others, it would impact who is more or less effective in battle. That's the sort of thing they don't want to give platform-specific advantages to.

However, when it comes to QoL features, there are already differences. PS4 and PC can use either or both types of hotbars. PS3 only has cross-hotbars. PS4 and PC have an option for displaying inventory or retainer inventory in a larger window with four "pages" shown at a time. PS3 doesn't have that option. PS4 and PC get an on-screen display of gil and inventory space. PS3 doesn't. I've heard that the PC version is more flexible regarding having multiple windows open at once. (For instance, I've heard that on PC it's possible to have both crafting window and retainer inventory on-screen together, but neither console can have a retainer summoned while any other windows are open.)

So there are already platform differences. Though I think it's likely to be a very long time before SE cuts PS3 support altogether, it is likely that as time goes on, there will gradually be more such differences added. I'd think a chat bubble option could reasonably fall into that category.

I like this idea, NPC already have it, and I really liked this feature in Guild Wars 2.