I bought game on both PC & PS4, now I buy expansion on both too ?!!

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03-15-2015, 05:11 PM
Kotemon

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Of course here in XIV you have to register and connect your PS3/PS4 and PC license. For XIV you are literally buying it for that platform, SE just lets you connect the two if you want. If you don't connect them, your PS and PC accounts are completely separate which means no sharing of character data etc. Granted I don't know many MMOs other than ESO and XI and XIV that are cross platform. And in ESO console and pc are separated.

I'll keep that in mind when I grab the bundle for pc. (Really, I am going to buy a PC copy if theres a good deal for a bundle. I didn't know that detail about connecting them on the account. I thought it was just logging on with the existing account)

Really,? I heard ESO for ps4 needed the PS Plus to run and might go partial f2p, but the console versions are all isolated?
03-15-2015, 05:18 PM
Violyre

No different from XI at all. I always had to buy both the PC and 360 versions. I would've been surprised if it weren't this way.
03-15-2015, 06:20 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Violyre

No different from XI at all. I always had to buy both the PC and 360 versions. I would've been surprised if it weren't this way.

How i understand it you only needed the discs for both platform but only 1 key.
So it was only neccessary to buy the game twice if you didn't know anyone who have it already for the other platform to install it.

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

I didn't know that detail about connecting them on the account. I thought it was just logging on with the existing account

The PSN account get linked to the SE account
After installing ARR on a PS and starting it, it ask you if you want to connect it to an already existing SE account or if you want to connect it to a new SE account. It can then only login to the SE account that is connected to it. To login to another SE account you have to create a new PSN account (and get a new key if it is not yet registered on the other SE account).

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I heard ESO for ps4 needed the PS Plus to run and might go partial f2p, but the console versions are all isolated?

Because it also come for Xbox One. Microsoft don't like multiplatform games.
03-22-2015, 06:34 AM
Clarkamite

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Originally Posted by dark0past

that's really stupid example

you should say "I bought gas to drive my car on 1st street, do I have to buy gas again to drive on 2nd street ?"

and people keep BSing us because they only play on one device, for me I need to go home every weekend and it's not possible for me to carry my whole PC gaming set up to home every week, so I use the same account my account to play the same game with the same save date on the same server and same everything, not fair to pay again... I'm not new costumer nor I'm making new account!

You hurt my feelings. You're a stupid example!!
03-22-2015, 06:52 AM
BreathlessTao

And threads about this still keep popping up...? I really fail to see why people are so surprised about this.

PC, or rather Windows, is one ~~platform~~ system - let's say two, because there's also Steam. PS4 is another system - and I assume PS3 is too. X1 is yet another system. OSX's gonna be, again, another system. That's 5(+1) different systems the game has to be developed for, which is resources, time and money, all of which has to be paid.

They all have their own online account management, their own servers, their own network, their own authentications. Your SE account has you linked to the servers where your characters, savegames and platform-licenses are stored. That's it, that's all there is to it, that's what you access when you log in and link something to your SE account. If you enter a PC code, it will know that you bought the game for PC (either bare Windows or Steam), it will allow you to play on PC. It will not magically enable you to download and play on PS4, because you have not entered a PS4 code - also Sony's own network won't have its database refreshed from SE's servers that you have bought the game, so Sony will have no idea either. Same applies to X1 and the same will apply to Mac.

I really don't know why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. Especially when it's been the same with ARR last year. (The upgrade campaign has been a special deal, I'd guess both because Sony wanted to make its new console as appealing as possible and because SE wanted to help its players, well, upgrade.)
03-22-2015, 07:40 AM
Seig345

If buying the expansion for one platform was going to score you the expansion on every platform... You wouldn't have had to buy ARR for PS4 as well as PC, upgrading from PS3 to PS4 during that campaign wouldn't stop you from still playing on PS3, and your Mogstation account certainly wouldn't bother listing your PC and PS3/4 licenses separately.
03-22-2015, 09:26 AM
DaleaudeOrnitier

IDK why everyone is acting like it's SO OBVIOUS that FFXIV wouldn't do what FFXI did, where you just need 1 key for all three platforms for an expansion, and you can use the expansion on all 3 platforms as long as the expansion data is installed.
03-22-2015, 09:34 AM
Zaft

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

still 99% certain you will be able to become Au Ra without buying the expansion.

Highly doubt it. WoW wouldn't allow you to be a new race unless you purchased the new expansion, and I don't see why this game's expansion, with the new race as one of its selling points, would.
03-22-2015, 09:40 AM
Zenaku

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Originally Posted by Violyre

No different from XI at all. I always had to buy both the PC and 360 versions. I would've been surprised if it weren't this way.

Not really i had friends who played on ps2 and i played on pc. But also had a ps2 so my gf could play i share there CD put it on my gf ps2 and she could play without issue. She only need a PC code for said expansion.
03-22-2015, 09:42 AM
Lexia

Well not everyone had RL friends that also played the game that you could just borrow their discs meaning they had to buy the data regardless if another code was needed or not. Many of the friends I made on XI was from playing the game and lived no where near me.
03-22-2015, 09:43 AM
Mugiawara

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Boo freaking hoo. Did you not read what I wrote above your post? Nothing in this world is free. Deal with it. You are not entitled to a free or discounted copy of Heavensward. No one is.

I need help with this part here.
Explain to me why I need to pay for sub and HW at the same time.
Say my sub ends at the same time whichcall comes out. Why they not give me a free 30 like they did XIV: ARR?
Makes no sense to me.
Would like an explanation. [Seriously, I don't get why they didn't add another 30.]
No rude comments please.

@ Zaft's below comment: I'm sorry, I never played an MMO with expacs before so sorry for a dumb question but
yes that's what I mean. TBH that's so stupid. :/ The cheapest is $40 for the PC standard download.
Can't toss a good 30 days in it all? So I would have to pay $43 some odd monies for it.
You sure this is an expac or a whole new game? Goodness gracious. o_o
03-22-2015, 09:45 AM
Zaft

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

I need help with this part here.
Explain to me why I need to pay for sub and HW at the same time.
Say my sub ends at the same time whichcall comes out. Why they not give me a free 30 like they did XIV: ARR?
Makes no sense to me.
Would like an explanation. [Seriously, I don't get why they didn't add another 30.]
No rude comments please.

I really have no idea what you're even asking. Are you asking why you have to pay for a subscription and an expansion? Because the subscription is for access to the game itself. The expansion is additional content.
03-22-2015, 09:49 AM
Lexia

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Explain to me why I need to pay for sub and HW at the same time.

I have seen this pop up quite few times, did WoW players complain this much about having to pay a sub and buy the expansions?
03-22-2015, 09:50 AM
Zaft

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Originally Posted by Lexia

I have seen this pop up quite few times, did WoW players complain this much about having to pay a sub and buy the expansions?

No. Neither did EQ players, FFXI players, or anyone else. I have no idea why FFXIV players do.

GW2 refugees or something?
03-22-2015, 09:52 AM
Mugiawara

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Originally Posted by Lexia

I have seen this pop up quite few times, did WoW players complain this much about having to pay a sub and buy the expansions?

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No rude comments please.

^
I never played WoW, and I played GW2 for 1 month off a friend, I never played XI.
It just so happens not everyone plays the same games as you do, odd concept for you?
Not trying to be mean but please.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Wasn't directed at you trying to be mean it was just a reference point as was saying that other people have said this in other threads also.

Oh okay, I apologize then. I didn't know things worked like this but it kinda sucks.
I'll just have to skip McDonalds for like a week lol.
03-22-2015, 10:02 AM
Lexia

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

^
I never played WoW, and I played GW2 for 1 month off a friend, I never played XI.
It just so happens not everyone plays the same games as you do, odd concept for you?
Not trying to be mean but please.

Wasn't directed at you trying to be mean it was just a reference point as was saying that other people have said this in other threads also.
03-22-2015, 10:28 AM
Sebazy

SE really missed a trick (Or pulled a sneaky one depending on your perspective) by not including 30 days free with each expansion purchase. I have two accounts and run a PC and Mac bi-wired to a pair of monitors to allow a monitor each or dual display on either. If I want to make the most of this I'm going to have to buy 4 copies of heavensward. Getting a total of 4 months free playtime would make that a far less bitter pill to swallow =(

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