working as a team in a party

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

.... Only bad players don't check the party composition and people's gear before running off to gather 20 mobs. It doesn't take a genius to see that the white mage only has 3k hps and is probably a fresh 50, but bad players pay no attention to this. A soldiery bonus is a big tipoff, but again a bad player will ignore this, plow on ahead, and rage when they die....

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The problem is these player think that they are the twelves' gift to Eorzea. They do NOT think they are bad. They come to this thread and berate the OP. The tank was obviously new or newish and if they are still in the habit of marking numbers on mobs at lower level 50 dungeon, the DPS should not be running off just to aggro mobs without discussion.

I'm usually on a tank and I have to say that by and large, I keep aggro really well.

I don't usually lose hate in lvl50 content, when I do lose hate it is really one of two things.
1. I derp- I forget to take of regen, I miss a mob, etc <--- I do my best to man up and apologize to the group when this occurs.
2. DPS go balls to the walls before I've had a chance of establish hate <--- this really irritates me when they keep doing it. Thankfully it isn't common.

During low level dungeons, it's a lot easier to lose hate so I do mark more frequently in those.

That being said, I fully expect the whole party to work together and communicate regardless of which dungeon/instance is being run. If that means attacking mobs in the correct order then so mote it be. Taking the time at the start to establish the flow of the run is more beneficial than just assuming. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

Oh god please, not you.

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Grow up. You say in your first post you are going to be extremely rude as if that's some magical catchall to say something rude. smh

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

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Great post, and thought the exact same thing when I read that too by the way.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Haha. I'm very familiar with her posts. We've had it out over a few things already. xD

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So what are you and Atomnium in the same high school or something?

Anyways....

I always mark a #1 in a four person dungeon. It's only there out of courtesy. If they chose not to attack #1, I'll start using a circle and light up the target I start on and then immediately remove it. Most dps who have never tanked or are new to a dungeon don't understand why a tank would mark something as #1 anyway, and it's hardly ever for agro.

Then take something like The Howling Eye EX. Was in that today actually. Everyone seemed to know not to attack the spiny, but seemed to fail miserably at picking which sister to kill first. So, I mark one of them and we finish no problems...imagine that?:rolleyes:

Then of course there's my awesome healer wife. When we do four person dungeons, she'll fluid aura something low priority and mark it with a strikeout. So classy. It's the little things like that that either make you a pleasure to play with, or just another PUG.

Don't forget comparing people doing hunts to RL terrorists!

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

Oh god please, not you.
You are doing it again, quoting few sentences in order to look like the cool, nice and smart guy, no thanks.
To make it short, reading you since way too many months made me understand that arguing with you is a sterile and hopeless discuss, please find another prey man :p

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Careful you might end up branded a criminal along with the "early puller" mafia! XD

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Originally Posted by Stihllodeing

So what are you and Atomnium in the same high school or something?

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When you get to be my age you're absolutely jubilant when people think you're younger than you are. :3

I'm so flattered. ^^

Kind of surprised no one mentioned the tanks that mark a target but still can't hold aggro on target 1 even with a generous head start. Some DPS may try to rotate targets until they lose aggro on the first target. While for others they may just be trying to keep rotation buffs. Which may leave them with the choice of gaining aggro losing buffs or not attacking. Also forgot to mention when they won't pull off a healer.