QOL Adjustments this Game DESPERATELY NEEDS

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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How about one displayed via BAR, the other via NUMBER (effectively replace one or the other from the current MP Display Setup).

Or Double Bars Option with no numbers.

Could be an Option for which format you prefer.

WHAT ABOUT SIGNS IN THE MOB-LIST???

QUEST-HIDING???

THE REST???

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P.S. It's okay to create PC/PS4 Exclusive HUD/UI Additions if this' another depressing PS3 Limitation Response.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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Maybe an option to just display TP + MP bars with no numbers? Or some kind of combo display that uses one border for the both of them and just has separate fill bars for TP/MP respectively?

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time.

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If there's a limit to what can be displayed then allow us to choose which quests display on our HUD. I'd LOVE to be able to have quests but have none of them display on my HUD and at the same time be able to see FATES/dungeon/raid progression/time.

I just became a believer of ps3 limitations.

It's not like we need a bar for TP. Why not just have a TP percent number beside the HP and MP Bar's?

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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

I imagine it wouldn't be very difficult to do.

Signs already link over the mob's head, having them link in the Mob-list is literally the same thing just elsewhere.

TP links to the personal TP Bar, doing so in the Party List would again be identical.

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You miss the part where there's a limit to on screen elements. Yes it's a PS3 thing but something like an on screen party TP bar needs to be available to every player so they need to work out how to do it for the PS3 before anyone gets it. Now the signs in the mob list isn't so critical so they could do this for just PC/PS4.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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Then run back to SE and tell them to stop forcing us to display useless crap on our screens in favor of things that are actually important.

I wish we could choose to have a more intensive layout or not, just as we can choose to expand our inventory to show all 4 squares at once or not. In the party list, I can see all 3 of my own bars (HP, MP and TP) but I'd like to see it for all party members, not just my own.

I'd also like it if all of the bars were colour coded to match the green HP, pink MP and orange TP (and other colours for other stats when we're on other disciplines) in other parts of the UI. All the blue makes the bars look identical and those newer to the game don't know what's what except through experimentation and others telling them. I think they should be easily identifiable from a glance.

The one QOL I would really like to see is a timer section for FATEs that will show the active FATEs remaining time, then below the active part it'll show the non active FATEs next spawn time for the area/zone we are in so that we don't have to camp for hours on end with not knowing when the FATE we want next spawn time.

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Originally Posted by Hollow_Tears

The one QOL I would really like to see is a timer section for FATEs that will show the active FATEs remaining time, then below the active part it'll show the non active FATEs next spawn time for the area/zone we are in so that we don't have to camp for hours on end with not knowing when the FATE we want next spawn time.

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The first already exists, if you hover over a fate in your world map it shows the percent and time left.
The second cannot exist as fates spawn by a set "chance" within a window, hence why the spawn time is always different (to understand this, think about how A ranks elite marks spawn).

Something I would like to see would be the ability to accept a queue while in the process of zoning. I have actually missed a queue before because it popped while I was in the process of zoning (yes I really really want a new computer but can't afford one yet).

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Originally Posted by Alukah

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The only thing I would like to see here is an option for a notification for FATE related hunt marks instead of effectively leashing a player to the Zone for hours just so they can get that hunt mark(the marks that pay the best from daily). They don't need to tell us the spawn time of every fate in the area, but to give out "hunts" that require hours camping a zone for one FATE to spawn is just cruel. Either make a way for people with that hunt to trigger the FATE (maybe give the trigger a 30m cool down from the time of failure/completion to prevent farming a single FATE with instant respawns) or give those hunters a way to "find their mark and set up an alert system" aka a quest style alert saying that the mob has appeared.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

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For the PC client? Why?

SE didn't learn its lesson from FFXI's infamous "PS2 limitations" holding the world back?

Actually I have a very simple solution to this for the PC version... addon support. The players will take care of this themselves if you just let them use the tools.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

For the PC client? Why?

SE didn't learn its lesson from FFXI's infamous "PS2 limitations" holding the world back?

Actually I have a very simple solution to this for the PC version... addon support. The players will take care of this themselves if you just let them use the tools.

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addon support creates "PC Master Race" sentiment, which is against what SE is trying to accomplish with ffxiv.

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Originally Posted by Najara

I just became a believer of ps3 limitations.

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While the major factor will be PS3 limitation, and one day PS4 limitations there's also PC limitations. By PC limitations I mean lower end PCs, in particular laptops. For an MMO to be successful, or functional for that matter, you need to have as many players you can get. For FF14 that's on a console primarily and as we know they have fixed hardware so you have to be very careful what you do because you can't tell people to go grab an i7 upgrade. It also seems in Japan most players play on a console. From personal experience on Moogle, an EU realm, there's probably about 50% here playing on console, it's a very substantial amount of the player base. I doubt most of them have upgraded to a PS4 yet.

If anyone frequently other MMOs and their forums you hear daily squabbles about how they can't run the game on their PC. usually they are unhelpfully told that they should upgrade their toaster. In FF14 this isn't really an issue but there have been issues where there's hundreds of people and it gets jerky but in normal play not usually an issue. This is down to their caution with what they do. I play on reasonably powerful PC and yes it can be annoying having to go through two menus instead of having it just there because lower end PCs and consoles would struggle with the extra load but isn't their caution worth it if it means that MORE players can play and that keeps our world full of people and running smoothly.

Am i the only one who thinks that making signs displayable on the mini map would be pretty handy?

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

... we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.... we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP ...

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What about just show only the relevant bar for the given class?

There have been a large number of viewable UI additions since game release. I find it hard to believe the "PS3 limitation" limit has already been reached, on why we cannot see party member's TP bar. And because everyone will forever have the same amount of max. TP, it never needs a number, reducing the number of such "limitations" that need to be viewed. Either a bar, or a number, both is not needed, like HP and MP.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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What about having the display cycle through TP and MP every 5 seconds or so? It would keep the display the same size as it is now and we'd get to view everything.

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Originally Posted by Najara

The sad thing is it's probably as easy as you made it look.

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The sad thing is it's them consoles and their "challenged" memory capacity.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

What about just show only the relevant bar for the given class?

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Because if a class appears to use both TP and MP in the future, they would have to find another solution again.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Because if a class appears to use both TP and MP in the future, they would have to find another solution again.

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You don't need to wait for the future, Paladin already does this.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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Personally, I'm only interested in roughly how much TP my party members have more than exactly how much TP they have. Unless maximum TP amount changes, then a full bar is always 1000. And half a bar would be around 500. If nearly empty, I know they are very low on TP and probably need some more (Paeon or Goad would be very useful here, is what I'd be thinking). So even just having a bar without numbers would be sufficient for most players, I think.

And really, that's the same for MP. I don't care that they have 2493MP, that's quite irrelevant in itself. What is more important is that 2493MP is 50% of their total MP, meaning they can probably be given a Ballad here if I know that MP needs to be kept high (in case of emergency raises or whatever).

That's the kind of option I'd prefer to have. 2 bars for MP and TP, numbers not necessary.

we cant have TP showing ....but we are forced to hide hotbars numbers ~~...and cant hide quests

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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I can understand to a degree. However, why can't the options be there for PS3/PS4 users and the limitation be forced. Making the user pick and choose what needs to be displayed.

"You have reached the maximum allowable UI items to be displayed."

PS3 BRD: "Guess I need to drop gil from the UI so I can display MP/TP, as that is more important right now."

It better not be a limitation for the PC at all, period.

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

we cant have TP showing ....but we are forced to hide hotbars numbers ~~...and cant hide quests

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Hotbar numbers, Hotbar locking icon, Targeting mode, Untracked quests, Inventory grid, Equipment grid, Gil/Seal counter... these things are VITAL, man.. VITAL

I'd rather the colored text for TP then the bar, both for myself and the party memebers.
Chocobo out while Queued should have been fixed a long time ago.
Enemy list SIGNS YES PLEASE!!! why wasn't this default at launch ><
Quest List stuff would be nice, but can live without to get other QOL stuff.
Ping/flag easily for maps, also should have been default at launch.

As to

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

the UI needs a power aura / icon in the middle for procs , like Cure II/ III , Haymaker , Straight Shot! , maybe Assasinate/Mercy Strike, Shield Swipe ect

wow ...after years finally added it as default..... (power auras addon)

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...layeffects.jpg

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I'd like it even to have something more obvious for some minor things, like bloodletter procs (which as only a CD reset doesn't need an aura, but I've missed its proc lots of times on my lala)
Also it doesn't need to be this flashy; maybe settings to town it down (or off for those who dont want it) but a toned down could just be a partially transparent Icon floating to the sides of your character, the size of the default icons)

I would like the list of quests separated from the DF queue and FATE sync button. Like others have said, I don't need that list of quests on my screen but do want the DF and FATE info available.

As to the TP/MP thing, bars alone are fine. I don't need the number to see when someone is getting low.

I'd just like to hop on board and say that just a bar is fine for both MP and TP. The numbers are redundant.

And to add to the list of things you can stop showing to eke out a little more memory:
-The lettering for every mob you've aggro'ed. Nobody uses these.
-The weather widget during combat.
-The aggro numbering in the party list (A through X). The aggro bars are enough.
-Giant gold text for every tiny thing that happens.
-Those teal-backed scrolling text lines for partial quest completion etc.
-Floating text red error messages WHEN WE'VE GOT ERROR MESSAGES TURNED OFF.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

-The lettering for every mob you've aggro'ed. Nobody uses these.
-The aggro numbering in the party list (A through X). The aggro bars are enough.
-Giant gold text for every tiny thing that happens.

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Disagree with the above completely. As a tank I find them very useful.

i really don't understand why... "can't because of PS3" is still a thing.

Y'all would really hinder the best up and coming MMOs and quite possibly ONE OF the best MMOs for this reason? Let me purpose this... one day this will not be a thing... one day you will not be able to say this... so how about we just start planning for this to not be in the way huh???

Someone already said it. PS3 user... "You have reached the maximum allowable UI items to be displayed." no more excesses!

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Disagree with the above completely. As a tank I find them very useful.

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I'm not sure why "Levequest Complete" is any more useful to a tank than anyone else, but the other two, fair enough. If it's the choice between a party TP display and any of those things, though, I'd still take the party TP display.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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What about changing the color of the part members name tag in the party list, yellow if low on TP, violet if low on MP, Red when low on HP.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

What about changing the color of the part members name tag in the party list, yellow if low on TP, violet if low on MP, Red when low on HP.

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Hm, not keen on this... what counts as 'low' may be TOO low to my liking. And what if the character is low on more than one at a time? :/

maybt my vision is biaised, but really, why not display, TP for the classes that use a lot of TP more then MP, and MP for the classes that typically need MP more then TP ? that way you wont need to display anymore just the one that each classes use the most.

I healer, I dont care about TP much, but MP on the other hand, is vital for me to see that. TP for tanks is VERY important much more then MP, therefore showing the TP bar for them seems much more useful then the MP bar.

Just me though and maybe I see it all wrong

Mei

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

maybt my vision is biaised, but really, why not display, TP for the classes that use a lot of TP more then MP, and MP for the classes that typically need MP more then TP ? that way you wont need to display anymore just the one that each classes use the most.

I healer, I dont care about TP much, but MP on the other hand, is vital for me to see that. TP for tanks is VERY important much more then MP, therefore showing the TP bar for them seems much more useful then the MP bar.

Just me though and maybe I see it all wrong

Mei

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this is how i have always imagined it... why show the PLDs MP??? are you gonna do something about it? lol nope, i got my mp combo and if i need more ill get more.

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Originally Posted by Pterois

this is how i have always imagined it... why show the PLDs MP??? are you gonna do something about it? lol nope, i got my mp combo and if i need more ill get more.

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There was one point back in first coil where I as warrior needed a few moments of Mana song just to get enough MP to flash the last set of adds since the 360 degree attack was more effective for the initial hate grab and gathering the mobs than overpower. Once I had them flashed I'd pull back and begin overpower, but the point is there are moments where it's helpful to know what a tanks Mana is at. Few and far between to be sure though.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

I'm not sure why "Levequest Complete" is any more useful to a tank than anyone else, but the other two, fair enough.

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Included that one by accident. Was mainly targeting the first two, but to be fair what does Levequest Complete have anything to do with the kind of group content being mentioned in this thread? Doesn't seem like that would be a big deal either way.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

If it's the choice between a party TP display and any of those things, though, I'd still take the party TP display.

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Those data points are incredibly useful and necessary for someone tanking and trying to control the fight whereas seeing the parties TP would literally be useless information. I'd rather they change nothing at all than to take away those displays to add useless TP information. Think of your tanks and not just your fists. You aren't the only person using the UI. Your context isn't the only one.

People need to stop blaming the lack of UI features on "PS3 limitations". We do not and have not had the same UI.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

As there may be more actions that directly affect the TP of other players introduced in the future, the dev. team would like to work on adding in a display for party member TP. However, there is a limit to the number of items that can be displayed on the screen at the same time, so we have considered swapping the MP bar to instead show the TP bar.

In doing so, we would then be required to introduce a feature that will allow players to switch the display between TP and MP smoothly, even during battle. We would appreciate your patience while the development team continues to research if and how to efficiently display TP bars for all party members. We’ll be sure to share any updates we have on this in the future.

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BRD needs to see both. Instead of being able to switch, why not make the bars smaller so all three can be there?