I'm not sure how your server works but on my server it can take hours to find a group to anything through PF. Usually the only things in PF are ppl selling stuff and hunts/atma farms.Quote:
Originally Posted by OdinEon
several hours is a lot of time especially for those of us who don't have a lot of time.
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10-16-2014, 10:42 PMKiara1
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10-17-2014, 12:09 AMLord_ZlatanI agree. Furthermore, if it were available in the DF a lot of these awesome players that "don't use the DF" would use it because everyone can do it. If your static is stuck on T7, and they all log off but you want to keep practicing, go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer
I don't have a static and have been just waiting around for coil 2 to get on the DF so I can try, however long it takes, to clear it so that I can maaaaaaaybe get a static for coil 3 (unlikely). Its pointless and exclusionary. No one will do coil with you without a static because everyone already has a static and won't ditch them to fill a spot in a pug. I don't see the problem with putting it in the DF at all. people will fail, great. Let me fail at it if I want to. -
10-17-2014, 12:10 AMLord_Zlatanto a degree... but leviathan is also the easiest primal there has been so far IMO so I'm not sure how this holds up with other situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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10-17-2014, 12:12 AMValoiz
Dunno why ppl with Statics care bout this: LET THE PPL PLAY AS THEY WANT
If u DONT wanna play Coil with ramdoms DONT but let US, the ones how actually dont care and just wanna try it... be.. let us Wipe and be happy
Statics sys DONT work these days... ppl have JOBS-Family and stuff to do.. players database its older than use to be.... its hard to coordinate 8 players to log at the same time week after week.. and these days its hard to find ppl for anything in most servers (30+ min everyday waiting for King Mog ex....)... -
10-17-2014, 12:12 AMKat_Manx
I don't see why this is not the case already.
If it's on DF and some pro elite player is afraid they might end up with n00bs, then they can just use the PF, exactly as they do already. I however refuse to do any duties until they are in the DF so I just have do everything one patch later, hah. -
10-17-2014, 12:19 AMSeraviEdalborezPeople can and have cleared T9 in basically pickup groups. Statics are not required. At this point most PFs should be clearing T6 with ease, T7 with a decent kiter, and T8 as long as 2/5 DPS aren't complete drooling idiots and execute well enough that their damage output reflects what their gear suggests it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian74
Our static has a lot of people with long-hour fulltime jobs and even a EU player who has to stay up at odd hours to raid. A friend's static has numerous people with families/kids/girlfriends/schools/jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valoiz
You can make time. Static isn't putting in 20 hours a day, 6 days a week. It's not hardcore all progression all the time. You put in the hours, you save time later. We clear 6-9 in one night, sometimes in just one hour. Because we put in the work where we could, and that wasn't "nonstop". -
10-17-2014, 12:25 AModieYes, exactly that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nghthawk
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10-17-2014, 12:28 AMAdamFyi
I think it has to do with content burnout. Take for example every new Expert Roulette Dungeon, or even the Crystal Tower raids every patch - they don't last long and people get bored of them quickly because of how accessible it is. The reason why the latest coil isn't immediately presented in DF is to prevent this kind of content burnout. Of course, this only applies to coil because it's the only content with a dungeon lockout instead of a loot lockout like the Crystal Tower raids.
They do. I took the time to build mine up and half of us have school/classes, while the other half have jobs, and we all have families to attend to. We only gather twice a week for 2 to 3 hours a day, and we are currently working on T9. So I have to disagree with you on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valoiz
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10-17-2014, 05:20 PMpapichulo123
i agree everything should be on duty finder. getting a party for second coil is ridicolous
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10-17-2014, 07:18 PMDwillExcept that this hasn't been true for the last 7+ years. A lot of people can manage raiding with a static with a full time schedule and if you can't that's a personal issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valoiz
Hit the head on the nail right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamFyi
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10-17-2014, 08:05 PMMiscreantThis is such a massive generalisation, yeah some players are elitist but a lot of statics are just groups of 8 friends who have come together and want to clear content. Not everyone is elitist.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian74
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10-17-2014, 08:15 PMMiitan
Adding things to DF straight away will just increase the appearance speed of "OMG X is so hard! Nerf it please!" threads.
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10-17-2014, 08:21 PMZaeroOr everyone speedrunning and burning out of the new dungeons sooner. Heck, I've recently been playing Game Boy games while running dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miitan
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10-17-2014, 11:19 PMhdepaula
See, why do we have FCs? time should not be a problem when youre with the right people!
I know a lot of ppl use DF for learning and Im some what against that. DF wasnt always like this, it was fast, everyone was good, and we did what had to be done. Now you wait 30+ minutes, wipe-wipe-wipe, and after 40+minutes =>Vote Abandon.
The ppl from your FC are there to help you, to teach you by using TS,RC or even fast typing, be part of a FC that actually helps people instead of having a huge house and awesome stuff. I understand that ppl doesnt even get to go into Coils&Trials cuz people dont want to carry, so turn to your friends, FC, even strangers, make a party on PF with the title "Learning party" but really learn it, by the 5th wipe if you havent learned much then you have to ask ppl and find someone who can help instead of goin to DF, tring a 1000times and bring everyone down, DF shouldn't be used for learning, but maybe for Experience.