Ramuh accessories to i110 in 2.38

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Originally Posted by Zyrusticae

It started with the HUNTS?

For me, it started with the release of Atma and the realization that This Is Awful. They've gotten better on that front while simultaneously not improving at all on others (sightseeing, oh gawd!).

Well, regardless, they are at least listening to feedback, so that's nice. I guess the somewhat rushed 3-month patch schedule means they can't really test these things as much as they'd like (but Atma is still an awful, awful, awful thing).

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To bad Yoshi already went on record saying Atma was to stay the same. Just gonna have to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Yes. They were added to DF in 2.25 2.28.

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Acknowledged, thanks. I joined a few days before 2.2 hit. I'm assuming this enhancement won't be free. They might shrink the platform we stand on or something.

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

Acknowledged, thanks. I joined a few days before 2.2 hit. I'm assuming this enhancement won't be free. They might shrink the platform we stand on or something.

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They didn't touch Leviathan or Moogles when they added them to DF.

I kinda hoped they would change the caster Sahagin so it wasn't practically required to have a PLD but they didn't and it hasn't really been an issue... or at least it's not ever been the cause of DF wipes for me.

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Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu

To bad Yoshi already went on record saying Atma was to stay the same. Just gonna have to deal with it.

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I personally don't think there is anything wrong with Atma. At the start of the quest, I was at my wits end. However...

I now have BRD Novus, DRG Animus and just got my BLM Atma today. (the latter was done over this past weekend, consisting of 560 FATES).

I think it's just fine. Just because it's not handed to you, doesn't fully mean that its broken..or that it should be changed.



Back on topic:

I find it absolutely silly that the Ramuh rings are going to be buffed to i110. LMFAO!!!! They're only going to be relevant until 2.4! What a waste of development time to even upgrade them. So many other things SE could be doing, and they are doing this.. /sigh

Sure there are things they should be listening to feedback on, or possibly improving/changing to improve our quality of life...but this just seems so silly....and late.

At the very least, keep it as it is - except make him drop tokens (mirrors) - so you can upgrade the ring to i110 from i100. People who have already cleared and have their drops, will have no incentive to clear Ramuh again if their gear automatically gets upgraded to i110.

What does it matter if they make the items from Ramuh i110? Why not make em i120? They gonna get obsolete soon enough. Nothin special about the gear anyway, just keep chasing that +2 attribute that you dont even notice.

Primals are just gonna be slightly less useless, but still not worth it.

Lemme know when the gear from Ramuh has a "Enthunder" effect.

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Originally Posted by abzoluut

I seriously doubt their vision. It started when we got the comment on how they did not know hunts would turn out the way they did.

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They're game developers, not sociologists. When they release new content in updates, there is no player beta testing period. This is how they find out what works and what doesn't and adjust accordingly.

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Originally Posted by VoltaAsura

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But that's just it. You must have been quite lucky - either that, or had a lot of time on your hands to have accomplished getting a Novus, Animus, and BLM atma. That in itself is a lot of work for a lot of people. If you're unlucky with the first stage of trying for your atma weapon, it can take you anywhere between days or weeks, depending on how unlucky/lucky you are or how much time you've got to spare. The general complaint is that the atma drops are still too low, and as time goes on, the animus relic quest line evolves. A lot of people thought the atma drop rate would be nerfed so that people could eventually 'catch up.' (which seems to be the general consensus in this game, anyhow.) With Yoshi saying: "atma is working as intended" - it leaves a nasty taste in people's mouths because if you're a new player, or someone who simply wants to start a new animus weapon, then in the long run it's going to be one hell of a grind.

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Originally Posted by atomicdeath

What does it matter if they make the items from Ramuh i110? Why not make em i120? They gonna get obsolete soon enough. Nothin special about the gear anyway, just keep chasing that +2 attribute that you dont even notice.

Primals are just gonna be slightly less useless, but still not worth it.

Lemme know when the gear from Ramuh has a "Enthunder" effect.

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Every little improvement adds up to a significant end result. The goal is not the number on the gear, but being able to defeat that next set of more challenging content.

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Originally Posted by Armell

But that's just it. You must have been quite lucky - either that, or had a lot of time on your hands to have accomplished getting a Novus, Animus, and BLM atma. That in itself is a lot of work for a lot of people. If you're unlucky with the first stage of trying for your atma weapon, it can take you anywhere between days or weeks, depending on how unlucky/lucky you are or how much time you've got to spare. The general complaint is that the atma drops are still too low, and as time goes on, the animus relic quest line evolves. A lot of people thought the atma drop rate would be nerfed so that people could eventually 'catch up.' (which seems to be the general consensus in this game, anyhow.) With Yoshi saying: "atma is working as intended" - it leaves a nasty taste in people's mouths because if you're a new player, or s..

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Persistence is really key. I wouldn't say luck at all.

If I can get an atma weapon over the weekend, it truly isn't broken. Also, its as if you forget that there are comparable weapons out there that you can choose to persue as well, that may not require such a time sink or grindy way to obtain them. I fail to understand why people still complain about atma drop rates due to this. You know, SCOB weapons are still better and I'm not complaining that I spent all this time to accumulate ATMA, do the 9 books for each weapon and then collect 75 materia and Alexandrite....to only have an inferior weapon. As I stated above, I used to. I thought grinding for Atma was shit and I wanted to quit over it - numerous times. Especially since after all of this...any Coil weapons are better.

Once you get used to the pace of it all, and put on my Netflix or whatever, it's really not that bad...just boring running from FATE to FATE. For me, I have found that participating in as many FATEs as I can is best - I do not strive for gold or silver ratings at all. The only thing I am concerned about is participation - in any capacity. MOre FATES overall = more ATMA.

Also, MMO's are a time sink in general and it should come to no surprise that the Zodiac series of weapons in FFXIV are grindy and time consuming to obtain. Given their legacy in the FF series and how hard they are to obtain in the other FF games, I am happy that they are.

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Persistence is really key. I wouldn't say luck at all.

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When somebody gets one Atma on the first FATE and another after 7 hours of running around doing them in another area to get that one, it's pure luck.

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Originally Posted by VoltaAsura

I find it absolutely silly that the Ramuh rings are going to be buffed to i110. LMFAO!!!! They're only going to be relevant until 2.4! What a waste of development time to even upgrade them.

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Lmao @ "development time" - they'll simply be going in and changing a few numbers on the item.

It's probably not much different than fixing a typo.

I'm surprised, average ilvl 110 will now be available out of coil and there's no rage by the same few people.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Just to make this a bit more official, we will indeed be increasing the item level for the Ramuh rings to item level 110 in patch 2.38, as the OP has mentioned, based on all of the feedback we have been receiving.


Please also note that if you already have these rings, their item levels will be automatically increased and you do not have to obtain a new ring. :)

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Why so late?

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Originally Posted by Alukah

I'm surprised, average ilvl 110 will now be available out of coil and there's no rage by the same few people.

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Fret not, they will find new things to rage about.

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Originally Posted by Armell

But that's just it. You must have been quite lucky - either that, or had a lot of time on your hands to have accomplished getting a Novus, Animus, and BLM atma. That in itself is a lot of work for a lot of people. If you're unlucky with the first stage of trying for your atma weapon, it can take you anywhere between days or weeks, depending on how unlucky/lucky you are or how much time you've got to spare. The general complaint is that the atma drops are still too low, and as time goes on, the animus relic quest line evolves. A lot of people thought the atma drop rate would be nerfed so that people could eventually 'catch up.' (which seems to be the general consensus in this game, anyhow.) With Yoshi saying: "atma is working as intended" - it leaves a nasty taste in people's mouths because if you're a new player, or someone who simply wants to start a new animus weapon, then in the long run it's going to be one hell of a grind.

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I had a lot of fun in 2.0 making relic weapons for all jobs, even if I don't play all jobs much. A lot of people were doing that and it was nice helping out LS/FC people with their new relic battles. Now progressing relic is hell and you do it solo by grinding grinding grinding, spirtbonding spirtbonding spirtbonding spirtbonding. Not fun at all.

Should've been 110 in the first place tbh. For first coil, there were alternatives for i90 accessories to be obtainable via EX Primals, so it never made sense as to why there were never any i110 alternatives for second coil.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

I'm surprised, average ilvl 110 will now be available out of coil and there's no rage by the same few people.

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Probably because the only people competent enough to beat Ramuh are doing Second Coil anyway.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

I'm surprised, average ilvl 110 will now be available out of coil and there's no rage by the same few people.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

Fret not, they will find new things to rage about.

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I don't think people rage over players performing difficult fights for gear.

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Originally Posted by cryptic_angel

I don't think people rage over players performing difficult fights for gear.

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You haven't been around the forums enough, my friend.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Lmao @ "development time" - they'll simply be going in and changing a few numbers on the item.

It's probably not much different than fixing a typo.

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Actually, in the scheme of things it is a waste of time when the next update will negate these items. So it may only be "changing a variable here and there", that's still wasted effort unless this is proving that 2.4 will have no ilvl jump.

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Originally Posted by cryptic_angel

I don't think people rage over players performing difficult fights for gear.

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You missed quite a couple colorful threads.

Yey, gotta start farming all those Ramuh items! This'll make it easier for my secondary job to reach i110 without the Coil ring :)

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Originally Posted by Camate

Just to make this a bit more official, we will indeed be increasing the item level for the Ramuh rings to item level 110 in patch 2.38, as the OP has mentioned, based on all of the feedback we have been receiving.


Please also note that if you already have these rings, their item levels will be automatically increased and you do not have to obtain a new ring. :)

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Honestly, these rings should have been i110 to begin with. It's kind of depressing that the dev team is waiting until so close to 2.4 to increase them, when 2.4 will obsolete them entirely. The response time needs to be much, much better. I mean, people are STILL waiting to be able to turn in their Commemorative Coin in for GC seals. Waiting 2+ months for a simple fix that should have been in to begin with is simply unacceptable when you are trying to keep content relevant. We had to wait even longer than this for you to fix BLM when all you even did was tweak the potency of their key spells up somewhat. I'm not sure that's something that needed to wait almost 4 months for.