Eorzea's Next Top Model - Round 2 - Starry Sky

Stardust Rayne
Kara Wolfgang
Weks Lockheart

And can we cut the Lala argument before someone says something to get this thread locked? I can already see it getting out of hand.

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

Also because as many other have pointed out, the bottom line is, she took a bad picture.

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Bottom line is, people claimed that she did so that they had an excuse to discriminate against her.

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Originally Posted by Corfish

And can we cut the Lala argument before someone says something to get this thread locked? I can already see it getting out of hand.

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It's a debate (which is perfectly acceptable on these forums) and no one seems actually mad.

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Originally Posted by Elim

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Some people are getting just a little snippy, calling people who look at lalafell like children as "disgusting" for example (with a rather obvious implication behind it). Just saying, I can see bad things coming from this lol.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Just fyi, short person =/= child in this game or irl. Not sure if this is something non-anime fans have trouble understanding or if it's a problem that's spread further than that. Hm!

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To get technical, Lalas have eyes designed to look larger which the human brain associates with youth. Puppies, kittens, and babies are generally thought to have large eyes. Lalas also do not have developed breasts or muscular structure, much like a child wouldn't. A short person, once past adolescence, would still have defined musculature and breasts.

Short adult people:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...33_634x942.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...people-jpg.jpg

Toddlers:
http://images.essentialbaby.com.au/2...x250-420x0.jpg
http://media1.onsugar.com/files/2013...ddler-Cope.jpg
http://54.213.1.64/wp-content/upload...dler_dress.jpg

(Pics all taken off of Google searches)

It's pretty obvious which ones Lalas look more like. Anime fan or not it's blatant that Lalas are designed after children, not short adults.

ETA I have nothing against people who play Lalas, I mean if you want to be cute and adorable and have pinchable rosey cheeks, that's your call.

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Originally Posted by Corfish

Some people are getting just a little snippy, calling people who look at lalafell like children as "disgusting" for example (with a rather obvious implication behind it).

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I don't see a post that says this.

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

To get technical, Lalas have eyes designed to look larger...

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Large eyes is a generic anime style.

Weks
Valintine
Cecilia

Morina Winterfell

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Valintine Heilde

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Originally Posted by Elim

Large eyes is a generic anime style.

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And, again, used to portray a youthful and innocent appearance most of the time, which is considered attractive in Japanese culture. You notice how the large muscle bound men in anime usually have small eyes or just lines as if their eyes are closed, or that extremely sexualized anime women generally have hair in their eyes or one eye covered so that the overall look of innocence from larger eyes is diminished.

ETA elderly people of both genders in anime also generally have smaller eyes.

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

or that extremely sexualized anime women generally have hair in their eyes or one eye covered so that the overall look of innocence from larger eyes is diminished.

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I haven't notice this at all and I've watched a lot of anime.

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Originally Posted by Elim

I haven't notice this at all and I've watched a lot of anime.

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Well, regardless, if that's the only thing you disagree with in the entire point I've made, then I'll have to accept I faulted on that detail.

Nobody was discriminated against, the polls weren't rigged, she lost the first round and that's that. My thought on it is, if she had tried to play up a more fun or cute picture, instead of trying to be serious/adult-looking, it would have panned out for her. Lalas aren't designed to look serious, adult, or sexy, so trying to portray any of those things as a Lala is probably not going to end well. Have to work with what you're given. I'd look equally out of place if my Elezen tried to look as tough as a Roeg. It's just innate racial characteristics. And that's my last two cents on the matter here, because I don't want to derail the topic anymore.

From my understanding the first round was suppose to have serious pictures. And I don't find any of them sexy. Yes they're wearing bathing suits and have serious looks on their faces...but that doesn't always equate to sexy. Lol. The latter part of your post does prove that she was discriminated against for being lalafell; maybe you don't think that's discrimination but I do. :p

Kara
Valintine
Rukira

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Originally Posted by Valmar

Morina Winterfell

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Valintine Heilde

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This vote is invalid! Please choose 3 models.

Everyone, i appreciate the input on the controversial elimination of Aila in the first round. It was infact me who first brought up the concern she was being voted out simply for being a Lalafel who dared to wear a bikini. For whatever reason you all voted her, it was my fault that it happened due to the voting system I implemented. This has been changed, as well as 1) the exclusion of a Bikini Mandated photoshoot in Cycle 2, and 2) the invitation extended to Aila to compete once again in Cycle 2, surpassing the Audition Process. Should she accept, she will be the first model cast in Cycle 2! ^^

Also, a brief history to explain the lack of diversity in the models. I started this event on Balmung, shouting for models in Ul'dah and Mor Dhona. I accepted every single person who applied without concern of race. The models you see are the only ones who applied. Towards the end i began shouting specifically for Elezens and Roes. The two Roes, Size Queen and Big Apple, did not send their pictures by the deadline.

Cycle 2 will put a cap at 4 from each race of each Gender. "Please look forward to it!"

As for Round 1 being sexy or not, it was actually the first photoshoot due to the bikini screen shot being the stereotypical screen shot taken by most players. I thought it was "funny" to suddenly have a competition on the photos. In the future i will also include Mood descriptions for the models, indicating wether a shoot is serious, sexy, funny, etc.

1. Rukira
2. Rina
3. Morina

Female Roegadyn, y u no enter contest? :c

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Originally Posted by Elim

I haven't notice this at all and I've watched a lot of anime.

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Originally Posted by Teveriel

1. Rukira
2. Rina
3. Morina

Female Roegadyn, y u no enter contest? :c

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Too busy hitting the gym!

Nah probably just has to do with scarcity

Seeing all of this Roe love makes me want to make a lady Roe alt ^^

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Originally Posted by StardustRayne

Seeing all of this Roe love makes me want to make a lady Roe alt ^^

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Do it!!!!!!!!

So because lala's are unflattering in swimsuits/bikini's you're eliminating that theme in the next cycle? Is this not Next Top Model? I've never seen a model cry over a shoot/theme that was naturally unflattering to her and for Tyra to console and comfort her and say 'we won't do a shoot like that next time.' No she'll tell them to get over it and work your ass off to MAKE that theme flattering!

I'm sorry but in NTM it's ALL ABOUT taking your weaknesses and MAKING IT WORK! Tyra says this multiple times!
If there was a cute/bubbly theme a lala would have an advantage over a Roe, but that's not gonna stop the Roe from trying!

No, I don't agree with that decision. Nothing against Aila but she had her arms crossed, incredibly serious, picture was a little blurry, and should've done a mid-chest shot like some of the other models to partially cover up the fact she has the shape and height of a child! Lala's can have great looking eyes, use those features to cover over the flaws! Look at Valintine's bikini picture, it was the moon and her eyes that set her apart from the rest, not the bikini!

So instead of going, "boohoo poor Lala's don't look good in bikini's, let's cut out that theme..." Let's act like judges and #fierce models, overcome our weaknesses and flaws and make it work okay?

My votes:
Rina
Morina
Kara

Unless they put their camera up against a wall(which will limit what kind of backgrounds they can get), Lala's cant get a mid-chest and up only shot.

Stardust
Cecilia
Kara

1. Kara
2. Cecilia
3.Valintine

Kara Wolfgang
Valintine Heilde
Morina Winterfell

Voting Tallies Update
Stardust: 8
Nashalya: 0
Valintine: 13
Ruki: 5
Rina: 10
Morina: 15
Elesina: 4
Cecilia: 9
Kara: 15
Weks: 8

My three in no particular order:

Weks, Kara, Rina

Voting for me! mwahahah!


http://i.imgur.com/G0pPCIF.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/jYxiaMe.png


JUST KIDDING!

1. Weks
2. Nasha
3. Ruki

All your pictures are great but its rare a model shoots mostly face so that was a big factor on my votes :)

1. Weks
2. Nashalya
3. Rukira

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

So because lala's are unflattering in swimsuits/bikini's you're eliminating that theme in the next cycle? Is this not Next Top Model? I've never seen a model cry over a shoot/theme that was naturally unflattering to her and for Tyra to console and comfort her and say 'we won't do a shoot like that next time.' No she'll tell them to get over it and work your ass off to MAKE that theme flattering!

I'm sorry but in NTM it's ALL ABOUT taking your weaknesses and MAKING IT WORK! Tyra says this multiple times!
If there was a cute/bubbly theme a lala would have an advantage over a Roe, but that's not gonna stop the Roe from trying!

No, I don't agree with that decision. Nothing against Aila but she had her arms crossed, incredibly serious, picture was a little blurry, and should've done a mid-chest shot like some of the other models to partially cover up the fact she has the shape and height of a child! Lala's can have great looking eyes, use those features to cover over the flaws! Look at Valintine's bikini picture, it was the moon and her eyes that set her apart from the rest, not the bikini!

So instead of going, "boohoo poor Lala's don't look good in bikini's, let's cut out that theme..." Let's act like judges and #fierce models, overcome our weaknesses and flaws and make it work okay?

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#smizing #workit #fierce

It's all about application. I'm in absolute agreement with this post.


As for my votes:

1. Cecilia Tyyne
2. Valintine Heilde
3. Kara Wolfgang

It helps to actually create an artistic shot with the given subject. As much as I'd love to vote for Rukira (because Highlander love), the shot was just so… forward. But I am a little sad that they still haven't managed to get your last name correct… ._.

I am, however, glad to see the contestants aren't just posing in bikinis for everything. Nice to see some liberty taken with garment choices.

Really getting ready to participate in Cycle this coming August…

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

So because lala's are unflattering in swimsuits/bikini's you're eliminating that theme in the next cycle? Is this not Next Top Model? I've never seen a model cry over a shoot/theme that was naturally unflattering to her and for Tyra to console and comfort her and say 'we won't do a shoot like that next time.' No she'll tell them to get over it and work your ass off to MAKE that theme flattering!

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Unfortunately, due to the communities polarizing opinions of lalafel's in bikinis, it is the most fair decision to not force them to wear one. But actually, only 2 photoshoots from Cycle 1 will be repeated in Cycle 2, so the next Bikini shot will not happen til at least Cycle 3, if we get that far. ^^;

Rukira's last name is Michaels is it not?! Thats how it was spelt in the email I received with her pics....?

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Originally Posted by EorzeasNTM

Unfortunately, due to the communities polarizing opinions of lalafel's in bikinis, it is the most fair decision to not force them to wear one. But actually, only 2 photoshoots from Cycle 1 will be repeated in Cycle 2, so the next Bikini shot will not happen til at least Cycle 3, if we get that far. ^^;

Rukira's last name is Michaels is it not?! Thats how it was spelt in the email I received with her pics....?

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Nope. It's Michaelis, not Michaels. Yes, I have a Highlander prejudice.

Huh, I had no idea. When she sent her pics in she misspelled it. xD

Whoopsies.

1. Cecilia
2. Kara
3. Weks

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Originally Posted by Rukira

Whoopsies.

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Likes your siggy tho. :3

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

So because lala's are unflattering in swimsuits/bikini's you're eliminating that theme in the next cycle? Is this not Next Top Model? I've never seen a model cry over a shoot/theme that was naturally unflattering to her and for Tyra to console and comfort her and say 'we won't do a shoot like that next time.' No she'll tell them to get over it and work your ass off to MAKE that theme flattering!

I'm sorry but in NTM it's ALL ABOUT taking your weaknesses and MAKING IT WORK! Tyra says this multiple times!
If there was a cute/bubbly theme a lala would have an advantage over a Roe, but that's not gonna stop the Roe from trying!

So instead of going, "boohoo poor Lala's don't look good in bikini's, let's cut out that theme..." Let's act like judges and #fierce models, overcome our weaknesses and flaws and make it work okay?

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Tim Gunn?! YOU play FFXIV?! :D

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lji657Mcp61qe5x4p.png

Bump!

Looking at the pictures in the albums and making up stories for them is pretty fun. I wonder what tales some of us create when they look at the images?

Stardust
Morina
Kara
:3

Stardust
Morina
Kara


Rukira I was pulling for you, homegirl, but I just couldn't cast my ballot for you this week. An honorable mention, but I hope you don't get eliminated :(

Cecilia
Morina
Kara

Morina
Kara
Rina

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Originally Posted by EorzeasNTM

Unfortunately, due to the communities polarizing opinions of lalafel's in bikinis, it is the most fair decision to not force them to wear one. But actually, only 2 photoshoots from Cycle 1 will be repeated in Cycle 2, so the next Bikini shot will not happen til at least Cycle 3, if we get that far. ^^;

Rukira's last name is Michaels is it not?! Thats how it was spelt in the email I received with her pics....?

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Should do a cycle with just Lalas then :P ANTM did a cycle with just short girls, only seems fair ;o