I want to wear other people's underwear!

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Originally Posted by Bucy

I agree, we could solve this with an optional racial faction rep grind. The grind should be long and have the achievement of a meer title and unlocked vendor that sells race faction clothes, special glamour prisms, chocobo race faction color patterns, and a bunch of crap you can buy anywhere else

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I don't know, I don't really like how difficult to get they make all the glamour stuff in this game. There's enough grinding already. Maybe that would be fine as long as it's no more than a beast tribe worth of grind.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Ahh, remember the original game where underwear was an equippable item with stats? You couldn't unequip them (since who wants to see naked Roegadyn's running amok?), but you could swap them in for another pair. A literal change of underwear! The bikini sets were originally an underwear piece if I recall correctly too.

As for a change in underwear though, I have to ask why? I mean, unless you run around with no equipment, you are literally the only person who will see them anyway. I will say that I miss the option to dye them though.

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While I wouldn't mind being able to change the underwear that appears as part of the "naked" character model, those equipable undies from 1.0 are actually the ones I'm talking about. There's no underwear slot anymore but the items are still equipable, and useable for glamour. Maybe I shouldn't have said smallclothes, since on the character creation screen that basically means the naked model.

Mostly I just want the elf lady sleeves, because I saw them paired with gloves to look like a long opera glove sort of thing, which is a look I don't think you can get any other way currently so I'm jealous. :mad:

Yes, exactly Fawkes, it is a grind that gives little to nothing else but the ability to wear other races garments.

I would be all for this, I really like the hempen gear the Elezen Females get
as for those of you who talk about race specifics, we still have the starter RSE for each race, and who knows maybe SE will add new RSE sometime later you know kinda like the lv27-34 RSE sets in FFXI? those weren't just recolours, they had fine details to set them apart if you looked closely at them.


and before any of you say "this isnt FFXI" grow up it was just a comparison of what they could do in the future

You're trying to tell me that no weaver out there has made a different size of these hempen sets? Hopefully this happens in the future!

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

and before any of you say "this isnt FFXI" grow up it was just a comparison of what they could do in the future

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This isn't FFXI

100% agree with this thread. When I play my elezen and i want fancy sure the top works wonders but it would be really nice to have a option to have just a plain shirt like option like the hyur top.. or miqote tops. For men i see people asking all the time how to get that "T shirt " that hyur men get that is a much cooler look for vanity then sleeves and no top, or how nice it would be to put on a fancy elezen top with your spring skirt. Though I understand people want to have some uniqueness to the races but when there is no plain shirt option outside 1.0 underwear It would be nice to opt this to be all race gear. (Besides those of you who play ladies tell me you didnt consider highlaner women for that top, just sayin)


Also with hair hair I don't feel it should be a race only thing. It's kinda silly.. saying you go to the barber and cant have a half braid. Let's face it different people like different hairs. some like short and punkish some like it long. I was super hyped when Miqo finally had a long hair option.

I just feel like being the race you are already makes you unique to that race. I can easily identify any of the 5 major races without an issue. The 2 smallers ones are not immediate, but still easy enough. Just by being your race, you are already unique.

I want both the Elezen and Hyur hempen undershirt. Shirts that are just sleeves could be cool to try to find a good glamour for, and there are SO many outfits that would have worked if only I had a normal t-shirt! SE, remove race restrictions on clothes please, at least the hempen undershirts!

And if they don't make it possible to get the hempen outfit from a different race then they should at least give all races 2 different types. After all it doesn't seem fair that only the hyur have 2 different styles depending on what hyur you are.

I would also like for all the undergarments to be worn by all races but what i've been thinking for a while if SE would make a new type of undergarment maybe a more Real life looking one and it could also be a new recipe in a later patch, just a thought of mine.

I read this and thought what kind of freak is this person...but that's what you meant >_> ....maybe im the freak thinking this was inappropriate lol

If they do this they should make them only obtainable from retainer ventures. :>

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Originally Posted by korbinn

I read this and thought what kind of freak is this person...but that's what you meant >_> ....maybe im the freak thinking this was inappropriate lol

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Don't feel bad, you were correct in your initial assumption. I am a freak. :D

I like being a Highlander and I hate that "Wardrobe malfunction in progress" hempen set we get. If I could get something like the female Elezen top... oh so nice...

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Originally Posted by Wadoka

I like being a Highlander and I hate that "Wardrobe malfunction in progress" hempen set we get. If I could get something like the female Elezen top... oh so nice...

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It's the smexiest underwear any race has outside of getting hooker leggings with the BLM soldiery pants.

Oh, now I want garter belts. ;~;

What I think would be safe to say is that everyone wants more Options to look individualistic.
That being said there is some gear that I would like to change more then one color on as well.
I personally love the way the female Roegadyn starting outfit looks as well. but I also like the other starting outfits.

I have issues with the FEMALE paladin getting BOOTY shorts and not a full set of legs I am a dam tank if I wanted to be the bikini pld I would do that but I want to look the part of a tank not sexy. I can put casual clothes on in city.

Our image is what defines us at times in this game.

I would also love to see More Head gear options. LIKE A SET OF GOGGLES THAT I CAN WEAR ON MY FOREHEAD instead of over my eyes HINT HINT LIKE CID. and more things to interact with /Visor.

I don't really care about the undergarments personally, but more options can't be bad.

I do REALLY want the option to wear the other race-specific starting gear though.

In regards to race specific-starter gear... I would be severely disappointed if they made that equippable by all races. RSE is supposed to be designed with the intent of adhering to the race's culture, which there is so little of in this game as it is. I understand many of us live in melting pot societies and that most people seem to prefer homogonization over uniqueness, but there's something to be said about respecting cultural differences. True this a video game and people clamor for equal opportunities for paying the same subscription as everyone else (discounting legacy price, but that's not important), but I do wish there was more respect for what little racial lore we still have intact.

No I do not mean to get overly analytical of the situation, this is just my opinion after all. Besides... in the end, non-Elezens wanting our gear are posers! *turns ballcap backwards and flips a peace sign, then proceeds to walk into the sunset.)

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Originally Posted by Mitternacht

If they do this they should make them only obtainable from retainer ventures. :>

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Yeah! C'mon, our retainers break into people's houses all the time to steal their wallpaper, floors, roofs, and even the walls. Why not raid the laundry while they're at it?

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Originally Posted by Wadoka

I like being a Highlander and I hate that "Wardrobe malfunction in progress" hempen set we get. If I could get something like the female Elezen top... oh so nice...

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You do realize that your RSE smallclothes is the entire reason this thread exists. No, seriously, they may not be saying it outright, but the bolded is the exact reason. It is also the exact reason why I hope the idea never happens.

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Originally Posted by Daeana

What I think would be safe to say is that everyone wants more Options to look individualistic.
That being said there is some gear that I would like to change more then one color on as well.
I personally love the way the female Roegadyn starting outfit looks as well. but I also like the other starting outfits.

I have issues with the FEMALE paladin getting BOOTY shorts and not a full set of legs I am a dam tank if I wanted to be the bikini pld I would do that but I want to look the part of a tank not sexy. I can put casual clothes on in city.

Our image is what defines us at times in this game.

I would also love to see More Head gear options. LIKE A SET OF GOGGLES THAT I CAN WEAR ON MY FOREHEAD instead of over my eyes HINT HINT LIKE CID. and more things to interact with /Visor.

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Male get short shorts. I was complaining about yhat with my FC lol. I am a tank get a chainmail pants lol

At the very least I'd love plain, dyeable underwear

I'm not even going to lie. I "liked" the original post purely because of the thread title.....

On the matter itself, I support that as well, but it's not that big of a deal to me. I'd still be more interested in gear no longer being restricted based on class, (at least glamor wise), but even a slight start in the direction of removing restrictions is still a start......

I'm curious as to how the Hempen Camise will look on female Au Ra. Hope its similar to the female midlander version.

The tanks getting underwear looking lower body gear posts. lol Though I didn't know that before.

Reaction to title of thread:
http://i.imgur.com/bcTIle5.gif

Lalafell in Highlander Hempen incoming. :x

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Originally Posted by seida

But the starting gear and hempen gear are literally the ONLY gear that is unique by race. Why take that away? Let us have something unique :/

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I completely agree but for different reasons. However we all have different things that motivate us in the game, for some it's glamour... Though I don't see some Hempens or Racial gear being appropriate on certain races without alterations to the original design but we'll see what SE chooses to put on their priorities list after HW is done I suppose.

I personally think stuff like PF adjustments for players to be able see loot rules before joining would be more important if it's not put in already or adjustments to jobs when they prove to be under or over balanced but as they say; "Different strokes for different folks." :p

Anyways, time to stop derailing the thread as it is rude to do so. *eats cookies*

But the starting gear and hempen gear are literally the ONLY gear that is unique by race. Why take that away? Let us have something unique :/

At least I want Midlander's tank top. Highlander's underwear is really suits well for bondage outfit (+Postmoogle Hat) -_-;

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Originally Posted by Kettle

And the award for Best Thread Title goes to...

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Miqo'te #28485284

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

:o

I see people using the race-specific smallclothes for glamour all the time, and there are some combinations I'd like to try but can't due to race restrictions. I would like to see them all made available to everyone.

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AFAIK "underwear" is identical for most of the races because it's part of the base model, what you're talking about is the "emperor's new clothes" glamor. So you won't see this purely because it would involve another base model X variants of underwear.

The starting clothes on the other hand, and some of the seasonal gear is gender/race locked because that would involve creating new models that almost nobody would use.

Off hand, the only "gender-neutral" clothing I've ever seen in any MMORPG was in Mabinogi, was the starter human dress/pants, where indeed the male players could wear the female starter skirt, and females could wear the starter pants. Only one player ever did that. And the animation wasn't tied to the clothing set... it was tied to the gear. I discovered that one of the weapon items would switch the character to using all the female animations and some crazy fun was had with that and the "fashion show" for a while before people became disinterested in it.

In the context of FFXIV, they would have to explicitly make such a thing (see Hildibrand wearing a wedding dress), but they would also need to make one for every race.

When I found out the hempen clothes were race/sex-changing I was so curious to see my version just to find out male miqo'te underpants are just normal, not even short, shorts.. Why.

Bring back the underwear gear slots, SE!

http://i.imgur.com/MpfgF8O.png?1

Imagine a male Lalafell wearing this

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Originally Posted by Felis

http://i.imgur.com/MpfgF8O.png?1

Imagine a male Lalafell wearing this

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Haha no, they already have a place where people with that kind of imagination belong... it's called prison...

I do however think the Hyur Highlanders got the best of all the hempen underwear (or should I say hempen bondage gear) versions, and my male Highlander alt looks so good in his I've changed my mind about going Au Ra when it comes out. It's amazing how many double-takes I get in gear that cost me like 50 gil in mats to craft.

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Originally Posted by Kettle

And the award for Best Thread Title goes to...

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ill admit made me laugh followed by a EIWWWW nasty :P

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Mabinogi

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Friend! <3 Though no seriously, I know what you're talking about and you're right. There were always the two or four people that would run around the server in those but that was it.

That said, Mabinogi is also the only other MMORPG I can think of that's as diverse with character equipment as FF14 is. I know a lot of people think FF14 is pretty limiting (and in some cases there's some odd decisions going into the limits we have, yes), but for the most part almost every piece of gear in the entire game can be worn by any race and either gender. People do not realize how rare this actually is even in current MMOs. In that regard Mabinogi spoiled me because even...Twelve, 2008 when it came out it was literally the only MMO that allowed as much customization as it did, and I think it spoiled me to other MMOs until FF14 entered my life.

Anyway, on topic: it's not necessary but I don't see the harm it would to allow this. I agree that the races need some kind of race-specific gear to make them special/show their heritage, but I don't think underwear/hempen set should be it, personally. Let people wear whatever they please under their clothes.

Thread revival! Especially now since I want the Au'ra camise on my mi'qote. :DD

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Originally Posted by Buff_Archer

Haha no, they already have a place where people with that kind of imagination belong... it's called prison...

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So you saying a lala couldn't have a adult oriented job?

Yes that's a super idea. I want to wear the female midlander and miqo'te hempen camise and pantalettes on my female Au Ra. Midlanders got the best one imo.