The real reasons 1.0 failed

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06-13-2014, 10:13 AM
BlackHaloJT

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Originally Posted by Vallug

Because I got bored of how easy WoW was. And lack of content. This game has given more challenge and content than WoW has. And if you do not like how it has turned out to be then why do you stay? Do not see the point in paying for a game you do nothing but whine about.

/snore..........
06-13-2014, 10:18 AM
Kule

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Originally Posted by BlackHaloJT

And it is still lackluster compared to what 1.23 was. Maybe we can wait another year....

Sadly most people never experienced 1.23 and only remember 1.0. Back when 2.0 was announced I think a lot of us expected SE to continue in the direction of 1.23 and just fix the UI and server lag.

2.0 is fine but I feel like I'm playing a game closer to phantasy star or diablo than an actual open world game.
06-13-2014, 10:24 AM
Vallug

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Originally Posted by BlackHaloJT

/snore..........

Yeah if I talked like you I would put myself to sleep to.
06-13-2014, 10:30 AM
SarcasmMisser

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

An XI/EQ clone has longevity but no draw to the majority population. A WoW clone is a big draw with no staying power longterm. Pick your poison I guess. Would you want a game with 200k people that last 10yrs or a game with 1million ppl that last 2 yrs

I know this is rhetorical but from an investment point of view it actually is way better to have the latter for time value of money and market share reasons. The faster you get your RoI the better which goes a long way to explain the "pay2play then free2play a year later" model of many mmos.
06-13-2014, 10:43 AM
BlackHaloJT

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Originally Posted by Vallug

Yeah if I talked like you I would put myself to sleep to.

No you said you came from Wow to easy mode FFXIV-Wow that was enough info to put anyone to sleep.
06-13-2014, 11:08 AM
KiriA500

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Originally Posted by BlackHaloJT

And it is still lackluster compared to what 1.23 was. Maybe we can wait another year....

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06-13-2014, 12:07 PM
BlackHaloJT

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

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Yep serious as your dumb gif.
Enough of this! I have to go que and run some more boring dungeons. I'm really waiting for Godmode rehash.
06-13-2014, 01:53 PM
Xatsh

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

I know this is rhetorical but from an investment point of view it actually is way better to have the latter for time value of money and market share reasons. The faster you get your RoI the better which goes a long way to explain the "pay2play then free2play a year later" model of many mmos.

For a money making concept it is 100% better the get the masses up front.

It is why almost everyone does it. Massive income = higher stocks = more money for investors = more bonuses for the executives. More money now, more to invest in other projects, even greater change to make more money.

Or in most cases company borrows money to make game. They need massive profits or their investors get angry. SO they go for the big initial profit.

The video game genre is not about makiing truly great games anymore... it is about making a quick buck. It is why not only the mmo genre, but the video game genre is just hurting atm.
06-13-2014, 02:01 PM
Kewitt

Why does this need to be posted now.

Reason XXXX doesn't matter it did, They changed they make it good.

The reason FFXIV 1.x failing for me isn't even on your list.
06-13-2014, 02:03 PM
Vallug

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Originally Posted by BlackHaloJT

No you said you came from Wow to easy mode FFXIV-Wow that was enough info to put anyone to sleep.

You asked? Your fault.
06-13-2014, 02:41 PM
HeroSamson

My reasons for not playing FFXIV original.

1. Bump table disconnect, get on boat fall into water stuck, log in dx error please re-install nvidia update.
2. Running and when you stop you slide.
3. Not being able to pull my weapon out unless I was right next to the monster.
4. Getting stuck in the center of the monsters and they spin.

Other than those reasons the game was fine for me but those were main reasons I stopped and went back to ffxi
06-13-2014, 03:19 PM
Cherie

It's pretty clear the OP actually played 1.0 based on their comments. It's may be opinion, but there is a huge difference between a informed opinion with supporting evidence versus some strawman argument like the people wanting to bash the OP for giggles.

But yea, I know saying "Play nice!" on the internet doesn't go well...
I'll leave this here lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument

"The more you know! (tm)"
06-13-2014, 03:27 PM
Seif

I don't understand how ARR players think 1.0 was like XI. To me that sounds like a terrible insult to XI.

To me the OP ha good points though.
Nobody complained about the NMs in 1.0 or about super dangerous mobs making some areas very hard to reach. Those were good things and the fact that they were in a bad game doesn't make THOSE features bad.

There were also tons if great music. Nail of the heavens, field leve track, on windy meadows the list goes on.
ARR has a terrible battle track and the game makes you listen to it in every single zone.
06-13-2014, 04:14 PM
Drivont

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Originally Posted by Roris

It was developed on a sketchy engine not fit for MMOs or even consoles, it was outsourced to give more budget to other games like the fabulous Lightning saga, it was announced too early and then rushed to compete with Cataclysm when it should have been a good year or two away from having a proper release to iron out all the issues.

its a conspiracy! I'm telling you it was all planned this way!!! It was called "project rapture" in development! Then what did The Circle of Knowing do?? KNEW IT WAS COMING!!! They sent Louisoix to rapture us!

2.0 was always supposed to be 1.0!!!!!!!!!! YOU HEARD IT HERE!!!!

lol I'm just kidding... it's probably just me being crazy... :3
06-13-2014, 04:16 PM
Drivont

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

My reasons for not playing FFXIV original.

1. Bump table disconnect, get on boat fall into water stuck, log in dx error please re-install nvidia update.
2. Running and when you stop you slide.
3. Not being able to pull my weapon out unless I was right next to the monster.
4. Getting stuck in the center of the monsters and they spin.

Other than those reasons the game was fine for me but those were main reasons I stopped and went back to ffxi

This was actually my favorite part of the "realism" to 1.0 sad to see it's not coming back

that's really a reason for you and not playing though? ....odd...
06-13-2014, 04:35 PM
Seif

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Originally Posted by Drivont

This was actually my favorite part of the "realism" to 1.0 sad to see it's not coming back

that's really a reason for you and not playing though? ....odd...

Arr still actually has momentum to running they just don't have animations for it like most games do.
The bird boss in pharos sirius and titan plumes in EX are a good example of this. If you aren't already moving when the aoe starts you won't make it to safety even though the distance required to move is the same.

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