FFXI all over again

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Originally Posted by Cid_Grim

And yet people still refuse to use open topics to repeat themselves.

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necrobumping is a crime punishable by law, you don't want the forum SWAT breaking into your house and beating with a ban hammer, do you señior Grim?

I am sorry to burst your bubble, this is nothing like FFXI

You compare what they did here to what they had in FFXI hahaha, you must be joking, this stuff in FFXIV arr is a cake walk compared to the stuff they had in FFXI, they had jailers, 100 floor nyzule, dynamis, relic weapons that took 10's of 1000's of byne bills it was crazy hard to make gil, alexandrite and myth weapon trials.

Please don't even compare FFXI was way worse but guess what I liked it but, please do not compare, FFXIV arr has way easier stuff, if you ask me they are cutting us a break.

Not reading the thread but Levi EX was well done. They got that fight right besides the auto wipe if you are pushing DPS too hard.

FFXI all over again? This is relevant to my interests

If "all you do" is grind FATEs for Atma/Alexandrite, you're clearly not getting the most entertainment value for your dollar and may want to re-visit why you're actually playing this game.

After reading alot of your comments on the comment made by myself earlier, i do realize now that the comment i made was kind of misleading and as some of you posted flat out wrong. Its my choice to fate grind or myth grind or just farm levi ex for a weapon. Its not really fair to say that the game is heading in a dull direction and it wasnt right of me to state that i was stating a fact when it was just my opinion. Kudos to the one who corrected my post lol. Anyhow, if i have offended anyone who is a fan of this game by the comment i made, i do apologize and i take back what i said about FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by mhaid2000

Now before anyone flames me for the above mentioned title, I just want to state that FFXIV: ARR is a great game. I play it every day for several hours a day. With that being said, i think the direction this game is currently going is not a very good one. All we do now is basically grind FATEs for alexandrite/atma, grind for tomes to buy gear, mysterious maps, crafting items etc. I mean is this really how the game is going to be?

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Did you actually play FFXI? This game has almost nothing in common with it.

If you actually fully completed a Mog Trial, you'll know that FFXIV atma grinding is like winning the lottery in comparison.

Sorry but this grind is anything but like FFXI. I'm going to have to jump on the other side of the fence (which I don't like) and say that if you don't like it don't do it. Relic grind is optional, Having said that I actually enjoy it. It gives me something to do in this game. Even if it is mind numbing. The game pre 2.2 was boring as hell login on Monday do T1-T4, Cap Tomes, Login on Wed do T5 and wait until Monday to do anything. Now I have a reason to login more than 2-3 days a week.

I actually like the fact that they make Hard mode dungeons, Eventually we'll have them all remade. At least I can replay a dungeon and enjoy the beauty and design without having to level sync. As for the hunts I'm really excited about those, Should bring a nice feeling with having to hunt down NMs.

But again Far from FFXI grinds, When Yoshi adds Mythic Weapons that take 2 years to complete come talk to me....... LOL FFXI all over again!

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Originally Posted by mhaid2000

i do apologize and i take back what i said about FFXIV.

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You don't need to, It your opinion and everyone has the right to say what they want.

I NEED MY PAPER!!!

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Just wanted to mention that since the dawn of the last astral era players have been BEGGING for this game to be more like FFXI. But just as many if not more players have begged for it to not be like FFXI.

I wouldn't mind seeing some elements of FFXI in the overworld content, tbh. Might be better than boring ol' FATEs. Campaign/Besieged style battles and such. Then again, that would probably cause massive server issues so nevermind me. =)

XI was way way way bett..... yeah you know it !

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Originally Posted by Arkista

You don't need to, It your opinion and everyone has the right to say what they want.

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Very true, although that doesn't mean one can go about saying whatever they want and actually think it's right, at least when expressing these opinions to others. That basically is misleading opinions expressed as facts and often results in things like smearing and propaganda. XI typically gets a bad rap from the general public, but it's safe to assume, based on context clues, that most of these people either never played it or are simply not of the right mind for MMORPGs. Complaining about grinds in an MMORPG, for example, is like saying that FPS games have too much shooting in them. It's part of the genre, and you really shouldn't step away from the formula that brought it to the level of popularity it reached.

Despite saying that, however, I do give the OP credit for acknowledging the misleading statements. That's a clear sign of a sensible individual. He's free to have an opinion about what he likes/dislikes about the game or genre, but like I said, if you're going to use something as an example or evidence of, you need to at least understand it.

I use to be one of those guys, that was very critical on FFXIV, and compared my feelings playing it to my 7 year gaming time on FFXI... Then I had to take step back, and give FFXIV the chance that I gave FFXI.

Instead of comparing the two, I had to compare the two before FFXI's first expansion. Which I never really played because when I bought FFXI, Rise of Zilart was out and was established with updates. But doing that digging I found out that in the beginning of FFXI there was no Auction house. At all... Retainers only (or whatever they called that little shop bag by your name), I never knew this, kinda like how a new player would never know that two bee's use to pop on demon wall as you fight him...

If Yoshi P does with the first expansion what Rise of Zilart did with FFXI... Man, its gonna improve drastically, cause with new areas can come new ideas, such as new fates, and if he wanted to add NM's to the fold he can with those new areas. Not to mention the random Primals in the open world that can be captured which should come soon before expansion.

In my opinion, if that first expansion comes with a killer storyline, and when I'm done with the said storyline, I get access to something like Sea, sky, Limbus, Dynamis, anything that I can grind with 40 plus free company members? Then it will just that quickly have turned into one of the best games around. Not to mention if that boss to finish that storyline had players throwing controllers and wishing they had access to ( lets call it Limbo a dream world between worlds where free companies can camp mobs for drops to pop gods?) As in the words of a New Yorker, Oh shit Son!!!

I dunno, even before XI's first expansion there was a large chunk of content, and a good bit of difficult content... For its time. I remember outside of Bastok if you even attempted to go on that hill, you were going to be murdered by goblins solo...

But I digress. XIV is good in its own right, is it as magical as XI felt? No, because I was certainly younger and had much more free time to spare. But these changes are nothing near the levels of XI grinding in its early days.

Sounds like another Novus rant, which is 100% optional lol

I can't go with the premise that XIV is going the same route as XI did. At the very least, XIV is trying to keep the grind from becoming gun-in-mouth tedious. Trials of the Braves, while a grind, is by no means tedious as you're moving to different places and doing different things on your way to completing a book. I'll admit collecting Myth tomes can get boring after a while. The best thing I can say is to not try to get all 1,500 in one day. Get some crafting in, make some gil, keep your Chocobo in shape, help out the beast tribes (even those lovable losers in the 789th Order). Mix up you days in Eorzea and put the blinders away.

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Originally Posted by Brainberry

Sounds like another Novus rant, which is 100% optional lol

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The entirety of the game is optional.

says the game is like FFXI

asks for Notorious monsters....

wut.

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Originally Posted by Virgil

Just because it's an opinion doesn't make what I said invalid. The game has issues and those issues prevent it from being a good game, just like it's boons prevent it from being a bad game.

Why do people use "that's your opinion!" in an attempt to invalidate arguments that they may not agree with?

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I don't try to invalidate your opinion. Just you using the word "definitely".

And, sorry to point it out, but you actually haven't said anything besides "definitely not good" at that time.

I still don't understand why people think the relic quest line is the only content in the game.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

I still don't understand why people think the relic quest line is the only content in the game.

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^ This and you are a towel.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

I still don't understand why people think the relic quest line is the only content in the game.

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I'd assume because its still easier to get than trying to clear the coils.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I'd assume because its still easier to get than trying to clear the coils.

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By time I got my t7 weapon all of 2 people in my FC had their Animus. We have over 80 active players each month so we aren't exactly tiny. So I'd put it this way. Animus is easier because you can do it on your own time, but T7 is faster for most people.

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Originally Posted by Nero

^ This and you are a towel.

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Ah! A wild German has appeared.

How long has this game been out? Didn't Yoshi say beta for FFXIV started this time last year?

These posts are either blatant trolls, or the deepest thoughts and feelings of people who don't know how to read. Because if they could read, they would have seen that these posts have been made thousands of times. If you could read you would have seen that Yoshi and Co. give a grand total of zero EFF's about your troubles. Save yourself the time and trouble, deal with it or move on to something you "love" but don't also "hate".

XIV is far from XI, when i played; if it was, I would re-sub in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by Swagcity

XIV is far from XI, when i played; if it was, I would re-sub in a heartbeat.

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If XIV were anything close to XI circa 2004-2005 I'd have been and gone before the trial period ended.

No one has the time or desire to relive that era. Let's not even get into the wildly unbalanced job structure that none of the developers saw fit to address comprehensively. Or the horribly executed Notorious Monster system (Morbolger and the HNMs, particularly).

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Originally Posted by Hayward

If XIV were anything close to XI circa 2004-2005 I'd have been and gone before the trial period ended.

No one has the time or desire to relive that era. Let's not even get into the wildly unbalanced job structure that none of the developers saw fit to address comprehensively. Or the horribly executed Notorious Monster system (Morbolger and the HNMs, particularly).

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I had time; as a working/college student, lol, granted it was part-time.

Yes XI had a flawed job system, but the content was superb imo.

Edit: I, just I would re-sub in a heartbeat, not Hayward or anyone else. I liked XI, hence play it; do not like XIV that much as XI, hence un-sub more frequently. I am only speaking for myself, the time requirement was a non issue for me personally.