Bray HM Speed run question

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

For example the dungeons could have been designed so that you could not do these mass pulls (more locked doors i.e.) or throw some enemies in you will not want to tank with 7 others around you.

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Then what's the point of having a job that excel at dealing damage to multiple mobs???

Just saying it is not balanced/fair that one person can collect myth double the speed another one can just because of his class choice.

I was just giving one possibly option to colse this gap a little.

Thinking about it, the quantity of players who only got one Job and wanna do serious high level speedruns should be negligible anyways.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

I think the various reasons if why BLM and BRDs are chosen over other DPS classes have been said. One dude says DRG-DRG could do the first 2 boss in 10mins. *bla bla snip*

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I said WITHIN 10 mins so around 9:30 which I guess to you in 30 runs would be "15 MINUTES I COULD SAVE OMG!!111!!"

Also the DRG-DRG is on rare occurrences, MOST of the time I get a BLM or BRD and clear it within 7.5-8 minutes, but I guess to you that's "TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND SLOOOOOW!!11!"

Whatever, at the end of the day and however much I can take I still get a ton of Myth, I'm actually quite surprised you aren't one of these people who already have Animus weapons since you seem to follow a very strict run speed schedule.

I would say just don't do Brayflox HM with 2 Bards if you want speedruns, lol.
Tried it the other day and it took time. Yes 2 blm's would be best but unless in a pre-made group what are the odds of actually getting 2 blm's.
I had my notes mixed up before and yeah farming Bray is the best way to go for tomes. Ct is pretty much just if you need glam gear as stats are not great on most gear there. Well still better then dl i think.
My notes i believe i had were Pre 2.2, but yeah Bray HM is fun so speed run it and cap in no time.
Did do Bray as blm with summoner as well and it was fine.

Doing these runs with my FC we haven't seen much difference between blms and melee. It's mostly a matter of whether the trash pulls or the bosses go down faster.

Did about 10 runs earlier of me (DRG) a BLM, WHM and PLD... cleared the entire dungeon in just over 9 minutes everytime, win.

Why do you even need to play your main job in a SR, they're trivially easy and most people have multiple jobs by now.

Also one melee is fine in a SR, I've taken them before they make it up on the bosses but the blm and whm will be carrying the AoE. The point of brd/blm combo is the synergy, they bring buffs to make up for their lack of single target dps, and they are both the best burst and AoE dps in the game.

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

I said WITHIN 10 mins so around 9:30 which I guess to you in 30 runs would be "15 MINUTES I COULD SAVE OMG!!111!!"

Also the DRG-DRG is on rare occurrences, MOST of the time I get a BLM or BRD and clear it within 7.5-8 minutes, but I guess to you that's "TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND SLOOOOOW!!11!"

Whatever, at the end of the day and however much I can take I still get a ton of Myth, I'm actually quite surprised you aren't one of these people who already have Animus weapons since you seem to follow a very strict run speed schedule.

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Sup bro why you mad? Wasn't even targetting you that's why never quoted you directly. Just telling Spoekes the sheer difference in time efficiency of a BLM-BLM/BLM-BRD vs other combinations, that's all.


And Animus you have to look at time spent. I can run 5mins 30sec runs but that doesn't mean I can do them for 12 hrs straight (just an example) per day. Plus gunned for 3 stars during launch and of course things like 2nd coil.

Nonetheless I've gotten my Animus now.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

Why do you even need to play your main job in a SR, they're trivially easy and most people have multiple jobs by now.

Also one melee is fine in a SR, I've taken them before they make it up on the bosses but the blm and whm will be carrying the AoE. The point of brd/blm combo is the synergy, they bring buffs to make up for their lack of single target dps, and they are both the best burst and AoE dps in the game.

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+1

Anyways was looking for you on Tuesday after reset for SR but you weren't online :(

I was raiding

The people who want a perfect group are the ones that have seen the joy of a warrior with berserk and unchained up spamming overpowers and doing 650 steel cyclone crits while a blm is spamming aoe for 1500 dps.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

I was raiding

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I see :p

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Originally Posted by Megido

The people who want a perfect group are the ones that have seen the joy of a warrior with berserk and unchained up spamming overpowers and doing 650 steel cyclone crits while a blm is spamming aoe for 1500 dps.

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Actually quite often I've seen PF parties (JP/EN alike) asking specifically for WAR-BLM-BLM-SCH combination, which I believe that's probably fastest combi for this.

Level and gear up an alt! At least there is some content where i can take advantage of having geared up alts that i know how to play.
The only thing this game is missing atm is alt-centered progression content, so that u cant change a player for someone that "mains" a best suited job, all static group members have to have some alts prepared.

What I find funy is the people leaving parties looking for the most perfect run. The time they need to search such a group is something they don't count in. I rather do a run with a "mediocre" group than having to wait as long as 1-2 runs will take. I play BLM and prefer if my DD partner is a BLM as well because it is indeed the quickest way. But we talk about a 1-2 minute difference. So it is more a theoretical advantage seeing how most groups who are described in Group finder as "will do several runs" fall apart by no later than 3 runs.

WAR tank is without a doubt ideal for the fastest runs but there is no way in heck I would trust a pug WAR to not die to the big pulls.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

WAR tank is without a doubt ideal for the fastest runs but there is no way in heck I would trust a pug WAR to not die to the big pulls.

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Well anything could happen, even with a PLD :/

Recall the other day we ran tgt and the first instance you flared you pulled aggro and the PLD blames you and I have to tell him I've seen your multiple flares without issue.

Sometimes you can get PLD that doesn't flash enough or doesn't bother to riot blade and flash again to maintain aggro once MP is out. Mehhh..