Glamours and Gear Preview (03/20/2014)

Dyable acolyte, foestriker's, battlemages and infantry?!

SE I love you. Thanks for listening. <3

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Originally Posted by Sadana

Some of the clarifications in the post are very welcome (like not losing any gear and being able to undo glamours). The level 50 thing is really unfortunate though. I hope too that they will soon clarify the part about "same type". I think we all want the flexibility to have any piece of gear look like any other piece of gear (ex: coliseum shawl that looks like a velveteen coatee). Or has this already been ixnayed?

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I think the "same type" just refers to the equipmnt slot ( egs can only glamour legs etc).
Because some boots are cloth type and some are leather type, that'd totally mess up everything. I don't think they will restrict it this heavily (if they do, it's very very very limited)

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

Based entirely off bullcrap so I could be wrong.

But I think "same type" means "Chest piece -to- Chest piece". Little obvious, but there ya go.

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

I think the "same type" just refers to the equipmnt slot ( egs can only glamour legs etc).
Because some boots are cloth type and some are leather type, that'd totally mess up everything. I don't think they will restrict it this heavily (if they do, it's very very very limited)

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I honestly doubt(but hope that I'm wrong) that S-E think we're that stupid to not realise that. And if they do, I believe the term "equipment slot" would have made things clearer. Type of armor makes me think of heavy, light and robe.

Heavy: any heavy armor that pld/war/drg wears
Light: leather + cloth armor/clothes (shirts, harness....)
robe: anything mage related

But again, I hope I'm very wrong. Or someone is going to burn in the fires of hell! D:

hmm, no screenshot with Dragoon gear, oh well need to wait for patch go live

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

both of those pieces are Lv 50

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It was an example.

I could also take the plundered set from the three early dungeons (Sastasha, TamTara, Copperbell) as a glamour set. In fact, I'd planned to for one of my characters. Don't get stuck up on the fact the EXAMPLE I mentioned involved two level 50 items. I've been planning to use my old AF set as vanity since I heard of the system, thus why I used it as an example.

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Originally Posted by Nabian

To all these people complaining about the quest being level 50 I have one word....SERIOUSLY?!?!? Without much effort most people can easily take a character from level 1 - 50 in about a week through spamming dungeons.

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The problem is that why SHOULD it be locked behind 50? Every level range would want to make use of this, there is literally no reason to lock it behind 50 when it's something like VANITY. Vanity systems in other games are available as soon as you get to the first major city. What SE's doing is ridiculous and makes no sense.

The French page gets more specific:

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L’objet de base et celui d’apparence doivent être du même type (tête, torse, etc.).

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According to Google Translate:

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The base object and the appearance must be the same type (head, torso, etc..).

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Doesn't completely rule out needing things to be leather/leather etc., but it seems more likely it's just talking about slot.

Jesus H Christmas people will whine about anything? So what if you have to be lvl.50 to do the quest, were you not planning on getting to max level and just thought you'd stay lvl.30 forever? Grow up, I don't know why you think you need vanity gear at lvl.38 anyways.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

The French page gets more specific:



According to Google Translate:



Doesn't completely rule out needing things to be leather/leather etc., but it seems more likely it's just talking about slot.

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Thanks! Indeed the french page makes it clear that it's item slot and not type of armor. That's a relief. Also I know french and that is indeed what it says.

I'm pretty certain that SE said in the past that you won't be able to make it appear that your WHM cloth wearer is wearing plate armor (since they can't do that), but I'm not sure if it'll restrict your PLD plate wearer from looking like they're in cloth (since they can do that, unless it's DoM restricted).

I fully expect there will be restrictions on what you can prism.

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Originally Posted by jlewiss

Jesus H Christmas people will whine about anything? So what if you have to be lvl.50 to do the quest, were you not planning on getting to max level and just thought you'd stay lvl.30 forever? Grow up, I don't know why you think you need vanity gear at lvl.38 anyways.

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It's not a problem for me, but I suppose the bigger question is why restrict it like that? Really no one needs vanity at any level. They might want to look like something else at level 38. What's it to you?

so prism's are going to be crafted? sold on shop? or what?

Prisms will be crafted.

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Originally Posted by Reishi

So no disappointment to all those players who got odin gear for vanity!

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Odin armor is useless right now. It takes 4 slots - more than any other armor - and therefor can not be used as a glamour skin.

SE please fix Odin armor so it can be used with the vanity system!

(Odin armor will be fixed in patch 2.9 please look forward to it)

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Originally Posted by Bixby

The French page gets more specific:



According to Google Translate:



Doesn't completely rule out needing things to be leather/leather etc., but it seems more likely it's just talking about slot.

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For France.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

It's not a problem for me, but I suppose the bigger question is why restrict it like that? Really no one needs vanity at any level. They might want to look like something else at level 38. What's it to you?

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Very likely a "motivation" purpose I would say. I don't see this being such a problem honestly.

call me white knight, very happy about this and very excited for next week
and quest being 50? great! having unmatched colours will give you more incentives to get to 50 quickly and you will enjoy it even more ^^

So, those weapons we get with soldier tomes. I'm now getting the feeling that those AREN'T the zodiac/relic upgrades?

Anyone else noticed that darklight gear is still non-convertible for materia? That sucks, it means we may have to craft i70+ gear for materia V's.

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Originally Posted by n3wman918

So, those weapons we get with soldier tomes. I'm now getting the feeling that those AREN'T the zodiac/relic upgrades?

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Considering the last interview stated that the relic upgrades would be a third route (route 1) dungeon drops, route 2) tomes, route 3) relic) yeah it seems unlikely.

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Originally Posted by KiraVaela

Very likely a "motivation" purpose I would say. I don't see this being such a problem honestly.

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Shouldn't the motivation to get to 50 be the game itself?
I just feel like a system like this should be open to anyone.

what do you think?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/a15...a7227deb_8.png

Roe DoL gear?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/a15...a7227deb_9.png

Lallafell DoH gear?
What is wearing masked Masked miquote?

or it is just some vanity crafted gears?

just wondering

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Originally Posted by Thaliss

what do you think?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/a15...a7227deb_8.png

Roe DoL gear?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/a15...a7227deb_9.png

Lallafell DoH gear?
What is wearing masked Masked miquote?

or it is just some vanity crafted gears?

just wondering

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I believe that's the chocobo rider gear for the Roe.

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Originally Posted by Thaliss

what do you think?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/a15...a7227deb_8.png

Roe DoL gear?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/a15...a7227deb_9.png

Lallafell DoH gear?
What is wearing masked Masked miquote?

or it is just some vanity crafted gears?

just wondering

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From Left to Right
Acolyte Set (15/Sastasha-Copperbell, TamTara), Heavy Darksteel set with detachable helmet (concept art/new?), Cavalry Set dyed Black (34/Brayflox), Infantry Set dyed Red (34/Brayflox), Foestriker's Set dyed blue (15/Sastasha, Copperbell, TamTara), Battlemage Set (34/Brayflox)

The upper picture has 2 variations of the speculated Whitemage AF2 gear but dyed Blue/White, so it's just a new set. (Shown as Concept Art at a Liveletter)

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

Considering the last interview stated that the relic upgrades would be a third route (route 1) dungeon drops, route 2) tomes, route 3) relic) yeah it seems unlikely.

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That's a relief. I was worried that the sword in that picture would replace the look of the curtana.

http://i.imgur.com/N98Iko6.jpg

Make it 1 slot - adjust the stats and make hands + legs + feet invisible or break up into components please <3 <3 <3

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I believe that's the chocobo rider gear for the Roe.

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Chocobo rider gear?

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Chocobo rider gear?

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Like biker gear but with Chocobos.
It was shown in a preview a while back.

What I would like to know is if I can turn off this piece of crap system so I don't have to look at your ridiculous vanity sets and simply see what you're actually wearing without inspecting you? How does it work in WoW for example, is it possible to turn off?

I believe you'll be able to use it as in the last blog update they said you can "cast the glamour of a robe on a hooded cowl, as the body and head slot of the hooded cowl include the body slot of the robe ( In this case, you will not appear to be wearing headwear). Original blog post: here

Mages of Eorzea, be happy! The day when we can say goodbye to those horrible cowls has come!

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Originally Posted by Niryet

What I would like to know is if I can turn off this piece of crap system so I don't have to look at your ridiculous vanity sets and simply see what you're actually wearing without inspecting you? How does it work in WoW for example, is it possible to turn off?

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To my knowledge, no it is not possible to turn it off.

Every time i see bard gear i think of aladdin.

ARAAABIAN NIIIIIIGHTS LIKE A ARABIAN DAAAAAAYS

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

Every time i see bard gear i think of aladdin.

ARAAABIAN NIIIIIIGHTS LIKE A ARABIAN DAAAAAAYS

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I can show you the woooorrld!

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Originally Posted by Niryet

What I would like to know is if I can turn off this piece of crap system so I don't have to look at your ridiculous vanity sets and simply see what you're actually wearing without inspecting you? How does it work in WoW for example, is it possible to turn off?

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I understand that it might be difficult to check someone's iLVL and maybe they could add this information next to our names, but as far as your tastes are concerned I think should just accept that some people like wearing gears you don't, just like IRL. I think DoM Roegadyns are ridiculous but what can I do?

I hope Gerolt gets an updated cutscene when forging these weapons/armor in 2.2. In his current cutscenes he's just hammering a piece of black plate or something (doesn't matter which relic). Kinda ruined the immersion a bit.

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Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief

I understand that it might be difficult to check someone's iLVL and maybe they could add this information next to our names, but as far as your tastes are concerned I think should just accept that some people like wearing gears you don't, just like IRL. I think DoM Roegadyns are ridiculous but what can I do?

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I should have done less ranting and more explaining, I see. To be honest I don't care if you look ridiculous, hell alot of the gear sets in MMOs do look ridiculous even if they're BiS. However I simply don't like the idea of vanity sets, and thus I'd like to turn it off. By all means use it but it just doesn't appeal to me in any way or form.

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Originally Posted by KraggyKor

I see is trying to out-do Blizzard with ever increasingly infeasibly massive weapons.

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Wecome to Final Fantasy. You must be new here.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

Wecome to Final Fantasy. You must be new here.

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Honestly FF weapons are actually pretty reserved when it comes to size. Color and style are pretty out there, but the sizes are usually pretty reasonable aside from the occasional rare outliers.

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

From Left to Right
Acolyte Set (15/Sastasha-Copperbell, TamTara), Heavy Darksteel set with detachable helmet (concept art/new?), Cavalry Set dyed Black (34/Brayflox), Infantry Set dyed Red (34/Brayflox), Foestriker's Set dyed blue (15/Sastasha, Copperbell, TamTara), Battlemage Set (34/Brayflox)

The upper picture has 2 variations of the speculated Whitemage AF2 gear but dyed Blue/White, so it's just a new set. (Shown as Concept Art at a Liveletter)

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2nd pic = ALL rank 30 PvP gear made for PvE, been in game since 2.1 already... they just reusing the r30 pvp gear for "new" crafted gear, that's all... and is Healer gear > tank gear > drg > mnk > brd > caster

I am REALLY peeved about the level 50 requirement to use glamours. Hell, my whole leveling group was excited about this. We're new to the game and in our mid 20s and were rather disappointed by how a lot of low level gear looks alike. Even gear dropped in dungeons looks recycled. I'd so hoped the glamour system would help with that. Guess not.

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Originally Posted by Vydos

I am worried about this point...



Makes me believe that I can't change my pld valor pieces with cloth type armor. I wanted to put my Sipaphi shirt appearance on my valor body piece... Seems like I can't even do that. At least from how I understand that sentence. I wish they gave an example for that to make things clear.

At the moment I'm assuming only the following things to be possible.

Plate armor -> only plate armor (haubergeons, lancer armor, cuirass)
Robes -> only robes

Things that I assume can't happen

Plated armor -> monk shirts

Can a dev shine some light into this?

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The game doesn't differentiate between "cloth" "plate" or "leather" armour. I'm pretty sure what they mean by type is that you can't glamour a DoM equip onto DoW or vice-versa. For example, if you're trying to glamour MNK AF onto PLD, it won't work because PLDs can't equip MNK gear.