HM Titan Quicksand delay

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Originally Posted by Faction

You're totally wrong. You can easily still get hit if the castbar isn't finished and you're out of the indicator. This happens even with 10 ping sometimes.

Not trying to be rude here, but you're not as good as you think you are. The game is flawed. The unresponsive combat in combination with aoe issues makes it feel like a game from 1995. You're also playing a Gladiator, a class that does not have to worry about avoiding any mechanic on any fight. Anything you say is useless.

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And so to backup your argument of bad connectivity speed to a server, you judge a players usefulness and a whole class.
TO be rude, you are bad if you cannot understand what Defiant is telling you. Unless you are lagging pretty badly, you can avoid these AoEs....if you can't, well, then you are pretty bad.
Go spam Overpower now.

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Originally Posted by Meikka

And so to backup your argument of bad connectivity speed to a server, you judge a players usefulness and a whole class.
TO be rude, you are bad if you cannot understand what Defiant is telling you. Unless you are lagging pretty badly, you can avoid these AoEs....if you can't, well, then you are pretty bad.
Go spam Overpower now.

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Main tanks don't have to dodge anything in most of the content. It's just a fact. Sorry if this gets your collective panties in a bunch. It's pretty easy to say "lol the game is fine" when your role doesn't have to worry about any of the problems anyone else is having. I love the personal offense you took though, clearly you think that you're hot shit at this 2.5 second GCD MMORPG, which apparently takes lots of skill.

"Bad connectivity speed to a server" - what? Both you and him clearly don't understand the problem in the slightest. Which again is unsurprising considering it's irrelevant to you. It's to do with how utterly awful, unresponsive and just generally laggy battles in this game are, not anyones "bad connection."

I'm on a Server in my region (NA on Levithian), and i'll agree, Weight of the Land is just way too lag sensitive, the cast time should be about half a second longer because when the indicator appears now, half the time you're too late to dodge it, and while memorizing the pattern might work for Melee DPS, all casters and healers especially don't have the abitlity to just stop casting because there is a pattern, and not everyone is going to always dodge every attack and when the already squishy caster gets hit with an attack that takes out 2/3rds of their health moments before or after an unavoidble attack that does half their health over 2-3 hits, it just spells disaster.

The reason the lag issue isn't as bad with Ifrit/Garuda hard mode is because Ifrit's and Garuda's Cast times are almost twice as long as Titan's, and their attack patterns are no where near as aggressive as Titan's constant dodge or die skill spam, kinda funny when you consider Titan-Egi is the tank of the three.

It's random as hell. Sometimes I see it, move immediately out of it and get hit. Other times, I see it, move away and think I'm gonna get hit but don't. I find the only sure-fire way to dodge it, is to know when it's coming and move beforehand.

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Originally Posted by guyaume

I agree, I have a 130ms ping to server (from europe to the so-called "European" datacenter located in america).

I play with keyboard, and I never achieve to avoid the big "corridor" strike that pushes you outside...

This fight in NOT beatable for a non local keyboard player !!!!
Especially as a caster, not being able to move while casting.

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I do Titan on my SCH...I'm in europe playing on the NA datacenter...I have yet to be pushed off the arena cause of the latency. The plumes however are really a "start running before the visual" starts kind of race. But Landslide...to not dodge that, you have to be really slow.

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Originally Posted by Faction

Main tanks don't have to dodge anything in most of the content. It's just a fact. Sorry if this gets your collective panties in a bunch. It's pretty easy to say "lol the game is fine" when your role doesn't have to worry about any of the problems anyone else is having.

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Uhh, what? Do you realize how many mobs in this game have either a breath attack or a centered aoe that decent tanks should be dodging? Even on HM Ifrit, tanks should be moving to dodge the outside plumes. While there aren't as many one shot abilities as say HM Titan, a tank has plenty of opportunites to test whether they can move out of aoe attacks in this game.

For what it's worth, I've had no instances where I'm out of an aoe, but still get hit by it. I'm not saying that this isn't a real issue for people, but for me, if I get hit by an aoe, it's because I didn't react fast enough. I'm playing on an NA server - Faerie - and am located in the midwest - Cleveland, Ohio.

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Originally Posted by MBTL90

Uhh, what? Do you realize how many mobs in this game have either a breath attack or a centered aoe that decent tanks should be dodging? Even on HM Ifrit, tanks should be moving to dodge the outside plumes. While there aren't as many one shot abilities as say HM Titan, a tank has plenty of opportunites to test whether they can move out of aoe attacks in this game.

For what it's worth, I've had no instances where I'm out of an aoe, but still get hit by it. I'm not saying that this isn't a real issue for people, but for me, if I get hit by an aoe, it's because I didn't react fast enough. I'm playing on an NA server - Faerie - and am located in the midwest - Cleveland, Ohio.

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You are both right to a point. Tanks do have content where they should dodge attacks. But on Primals at least, it's pretty limited. HM Ifrit is Outside Plumes only pretty much. On Garuda it's Slipstream and on Titan there is nothing, so I do get the point ;)

I've had that problem a few times too, it "appears" to the server before it appears to you, that is the best explanation I can give that one. I've managed to live longer as a healer by standing at Titans side away from everyone else, thanks to some helpful advice in one duty finder.

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Originally Posted by Defiant

Like most AoEs in this game, damage is triggered based on where your character is standing when the cast bar/ability triggers (Not when the visual que trggers). Take the last boss in keep for instance - you can run out and reengage the boss the moment the large AoE cast bar ends and be perfectly fine. Even though the graphics for the ability are still active, the character hit/miss check has already triggered. Best solution on Titan, move faster.

Not trying to be rude here, but there is plenty of time to get out of the AoEs, the fight is VERY well tuned. Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

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although you are right there is enough time to get out of danger zones, your understanding of the lag ridden positioning system is quite faulty

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Originally Posted by Defiant

Just because people decide to play on non-local server doesn't mean content should be nerfed for the rest of us.

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ahahaha good one.