This reference almost slipped past me...

Slight tangent: I miss blood aggro from undead.

[Anyone with critically low HP would attract undead from a mile away, like a magnet]

Aaand back to the discussion, lol.

Its another layer of danger to consider. The difference between excellent and terrible places to grind, depending on the party's preparedness.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I hope those items/spells stay out of the game. I prefer the method we had of avoiding aggro in 1.0, walking past sound and behind sight.

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I liked the sneak and invis. spells/medicine in FFXI.
U know in FFXI you could also avoid sight aggro monsters by going behind them, still invisible was great when u just wanted to run through a zone (just to find out that one of them was infact a sound aggro one or a true sight... lol).
I don't think one way of going around mobs should rule another out.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Does this mean there will once again be potions and spells that grant invisibility or anti-sound buffs to evade aggro?

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No, that means "welcome to the world of private jokes from FFXI".

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

I'm... guessing you never tried to reach every Aetherial node in 1.0? Sight aggro and sound/true sound indeed exist. Ignoring how certain things aggro could render some of these nodes near impossible to reach.

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You're missing the point. TRUE sight/sound means that mobs can detect you even with invisibility or sneak. Since these effect don't exist in the game, TRUE aggro doesn't exists too.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

You're missing the point. TRUE sight/sound means that mobs can detect you even with invisibility or sneak. Since these effect don't exist in the game, TRUE aggro doesn't exists too.

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We shall see. I merely brought it up because Fernhawles did.

Some mobs in v1.0 can only detect by sound, so you can walk right in front of them and they wont aggro you, but if you run then they'll aggro. Some have very narrow eye sight which means they can only see directly of what is in front of them.

Use Stealth ability. problem solved

Also, one reason why some locations was nearly impossible to reach in v1.0 is because of monster level difference.

meh, real men dont wear potions

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TRUE sight/sound means that mobs can detect you even with invisibility or sneak. Since these effect don't exist in the game, TRUE aggro doesn't exists too.

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They actually did have at least true sound mobs, true sight is kinda hard to test for obvious reasons :)
http://xivpads.com/?-Guides&Wanderer...etherial_Gates has a pretty comprehensive list of true sound mobs. A lot of these were in narrow paths in the Black Shroud for 1.0 which made a lot of peoples lives miserable at times.

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Originally Posted by Mamba

I liked the sneak and invis. spells/medicine in FFXI.
U know in FFXI you could also avoid sight aggro monsters by going behind them, still invisible was great when u just wanted to run through a zone (just to find out that one of them was infact a sound aggro one or a true sight... lol).
I don't think one way of going around mobs should rule another out.

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I agree they were nice to have in XI. I do, however, feel that players became too reliant on them. You HAD to have them to get to certain areas, and unless you were a mage, you had to buy/craft the items, which was costly.

Speaking as a player who never had a decent amount of gil, Silent Oil/Prism Powder were a huge pain for me. To make matters worse, when I would actually have some...there would be times when the effect would immediately begin to wear off right after using it. That mechanic can go straight to hell.

I hope they add it, will be a nice add for those alchemist too.

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Originally Posted by vax

I hope they add it, will be a nice add for those alchemist too.

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They need to first overhaul the entire universal cooldown system on potions for ALC to stand any chance with potions. As 1.0 cooldowns made them unfeasible to count on for anything approaching regular use

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I agree they were nice to have in XI. I do, however, feel that players became too reliant on them. You HAD to have them to get to certain areas, and unless you were a mage, you had to buy/craft the items, which was costly.

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Aye Sky was a nightmare for this even as a RDM i always had to have at least a stack of both on me.