Change Energy Drain. (SCH)

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

"Hi devs, I hate that people can make mistake. Can you please turn all jobs to 1 button spam and traits that uses cooldowns automatically?"

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This has been their philosophy for job design for years now, half the reason why I want to quit. If I wanted the game to play itself I'd download gacha

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Originally Posted by Azurarok

we've been back to folks asking to have it removed again since EW, which moved the mp recovery to Aetherflow and Energy Drain's become freely weavable from the 1.5s Broil. In ShB it functioned as a pseudo-mobility/weaving resource as RuinII + ED used to add up to the potency of a Broil.

ShB rightfully gets a lot of shit for the damage done to the role but I really feel EW's changes shouldn't be downplayed as much as it does (not accusing you of doing so but certain communities tend to).

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So then the optimal strategy becomes pressing aetherflow on CD regardless of how many stacks you currently have and you have 15 aetherflow per 3 minutes which is usually way too much

Sounds like a way to turn aetherflow into healing bloat

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

So then the optimal strategy becomes pressing aetherflow on CD regardless of how many stacks you currently have and you have 15 aetherflow per 3 minutes which is usually way too much

Sounds like a way to turn aetherflow into healing bloat

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a skill becoming bloat due to them removing the foundations of what made it work is very on brand

Energy Drain definitely needs changes... Spending resources for a 100 potency attack is just bad design.

Should probably be 320 to match Broil.

They know their playerbase. If they do that, everybody will only want to use stacks into ED above anything else, and not long after you'll see people coming on the forums and complain that it sucks that their healing conflicts with an attack "used for 2 minute bursts" and that it makes them lose damage if they use them for other things.

With which other role I have heard this hmm... oh yes, the blue one on gap closers.

Better idea , just kick the "griefter" and different idea if the devs NEED to get involved, ask them to implement better systems to help people learn to play the jobs CORRECTLY so we stop getting cure 1 spammers in max level content!

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Originally Posted by Valence

They know their playerbase. If they do that, everybody will only want to use stacks into ED above anything else, and not long after you'll see people coming on the forums and complain that it sucks that their healing conflicts with an attack "used for 2 minute bursts" and that it makes them lose damage if they use them for other things.

With which other role I have heard this hmm... oh yes, the blue one on gap closers.

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It’s almost like balancing to the type of people who want excuse to bend to a job having differences preferring to wail on a striking dummy are exactly why the jobs are bad and the combat is stale and we shouldn’t be just accepting they are who gets balanced for

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

It’s almost like balancing to the type of people who want excuse to bend to a job having differences preferring to wail on a striking dummy are exactly why the jobs are bad and the combat is stale and we shouldn’t be just accepting they are who gets balanced for

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No the classes were badly designed long before that. It didn't help I suspect, but it hardly is the core issue. That would be the combination of not wanting non-static-rotation type classes + wanting more and more classes every expansion. This naturally requires drastic homogenization.

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Originally Posted by Valence

They know their playerbase. If they do that, everybody will only want to use stacks into ED above anything else, and not long after you'll see people coming on the forums and complain that it sucks that their healing conflicts with an attack "used for 2 minute bursts" and that it makes them lose damage if they use them for other things.

With which other role I have heard this hmm... oh yes, the blue one on gap closers.

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If people die because the Healers aren't healing enough, the solution isn't to nerf their already bad damage or giving tanks more Heals, it's to try to make people learn how to play Healer.