Petition to fix Miqo'te Face 2 Eyebrows

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Originally Posted by glitteringcosmos

They keep throwing all miqote eyebrow reports under "working as intended", male and female, and frankly it's infuriating. The eyebrows are ugly, Squeenix. Please fix them back to the way they were in 6.55.

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Agreed. I wish they could atleast make the new changes optional. Since they said «we wanna keep everything as similar as possible» Yea i can see that lol. They changed some things (like these eyebrows) very much, in fact into a whole new shape… just add the changes as more options then square, its not like we’re spoilt with character creation options! Lol ugh

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Originally Posted by Tahli

So maybe technically not a bug? --But definitely an oversight, and not how they should look.

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Essentially yes. As an ex dev in 3D art, this screams to me that they adjusted something on the 3D mesh of the face, but forgot to readjust the UV map and potentially the 2D textures behind. As a result, if you move the 3D vertices even a little, it will start dragging the 2D texture around and distort it enough that it can cause pinches or at the opposite stretching it, which is essentially similar to changing its aspect ratio.

Here it could be that they moved some vertices up on the forehead which is tugging on the top end of the eyebrow texture, while also potentially having squished vertices closer to each other on the brow ridge, perhaps to make it more defined, but as a result it squished the eyebrow texture pretty hard as well.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Essentially yes. As an ex dev in 3D art, this screams to me that they adjusted something on the 3D mesh of the face, but forgot to readjust the UV map and potentially the 2D textures behind. As a result, if you move the 3D vertices even a little, it will start dragging the 2D texture and around distort it enough that it can cause pinches or at the opposite stretching it, which is essentially similar to changing its aspect ratio.

Here it could be that they moved some vertices up on the forehead which is tugging on the top end of the eyebrow texture, while also potentially having squished vertices closer to each other on the brow ridge, perhaps to make it more defined, but as a result it squished the eyebrow texture pretty hard as well.

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That makes sense, yeah. If that is in fact the case, how hard would it actually be to fix it?

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Originally Posted by Tahli

That makes sense, yeah. If that is in fact the case, how hard would it actually be to fix it?

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You'd move a few points on a 2D plane (UV map) and then you'd be done, so it wouldn't be that hard or time consuming to get decent results, to get perfect results it might take an hour tops if they've got a reference to work with...

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Originally Posted by Rin_Sato

You'd move a few points on a 2D plane (UV map) and then you'd be done, so it wouldn't be that hard or time consuming to get decent results, to get perfect results it might take an hour tops if they've got a reference to work with...

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That minimum fix could've/should've been done within all the time leading up to 7.1, making it more clear that leaving these eyebrows in their botched state was a choice.

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Originally Posted by Tahli

That minimum fix could've/should've been done within all the time leading up to 7.1, making it more clear that leaving these eyebrows in their botched state was a choice.

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It's almost certainly a "This isn't worth our time, who cares" kind of choice too, not a stylistic one.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

It's almost certainly a "This isn't worth our time, who cares" kind of choice too, not a stylistic one.

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Exactly, and it's so frustrating that they're doubling down on their "it's meant to look this way" stance. It looks so bad on the characters and it's a bad look for the devs, who are more and more coming across as throwing their hands up and going, "eh, good enough." What happened to the team that added flight to ARR just because they could? Where did the love and care go? It makes me sad, honestly.

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Originally Posted by glitteringcosmos

Exactly, and it's so frustrating that they're doubling down on their "it's meant to look this way" stance. It looks so bad on the characters and it's a bad look for the devs, who are more and more coming across as throwing their hands up and going, "eh, good enough." What happened to the team that added flight to ARR just because they could? Where did the love and care go? It makes me sad, honestly.

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They're absolutely capable of amazing things, the art team included! So it is really disappointing that something like this got past quality assurance, and has gone so long without being fixed.

Bump!

Wouldn't mind if they slipped an adjustment for this in a hotfix either. :) Since this face had no changes in 7.1, and we already got the free fantasia...

This was literally the only problem I had with the graphics update. I love my face 2 miqo, but I hate her angry eyebrows. And I did use the free fanta to pick the least-angry iteration, but she still looks like she's about to slap someone.