Dawntrail - What abilities do you think need to be trimmed from the game?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Healing abilities on tanks. We have healers to do that.

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I disagree, Healing on tanks is perfectly fine, DPS also have healing abilities. I like that certain jobs that aren't healers can heal and have healer utility like rez, Such as Paladin, Gnb, Rdm, Smn, Dnc ect. Removing that to band aid fix healers wont do much, Healers will still be just as boring as they are without actual changes on healers.

I do think we can certainly reduce healing such as warrior's aoe sustain and shake ect. PLD's magic attack healing can also be removed, But in general I feel like removing healing from tanks just removes another thing from a role that already has had so much removed, Infact I want tanks to have a more importance in protecting the party, not less.

I think Esuna and interject/silence needs more usage in the game, otherwise they simply need to go back and update old content to no longer require it so they can remove it.

Removing positionals will remove the requirement for true north.

A couple of GCD healing moves on healers need to be trimmed and replaced with DPS moves with slight healing added to them.

We know AST and DRG are getting reworked to see adjustments with their button bloat.

If anything we need to see the combos become 1 button as an optional thing in the game.

On Monk, almost everything except dragon kick!

Remove Freecure.

Remove cheating

They can merge battle lit with dragon sight. since they are both used under 2mins.

Dramatically reduce the group healing/regeneration capabilities on TANK/DPS roles,
and remove Physick from the Summoner as it will always remain a big joke.

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Originally Posted by remiff

and remove Physick from the Summoner as it will always remain a big joke.

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Rather than remove it, they should change it to scale to INT the same way Vercure does.

Generally I don't think they should trim out any skills, but take the more useless ones and actually fix them so they're less hotbar bloat and have some actual utility...

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Also whoever thought removing the card mechanic from AST's main party buff and putting it towards a self buff that makes the opener feel giga-scuffed and also removing lord/lady of crowns as buffs again and turning them into a feckless heal and a feckless damage spell and also removing noct/diurnal sect should please please please never touch ast again. Whoever redesigned AST for EW completely missed what I enjoyed about playing AST, which was supporting my team, having 2 different gameplay styles (regens and shields), and having a semi-luck based system that fed into my signature raidbuff. I hate these new changes. I tried to like it because AST used to be the only healer that felt engaging for me, and they completely ruined it. I hope they don't "trim" anymore. They've trimmed enough.

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What they really need is to bring more interactivity back and make classes more unique rather than trim stuff out.

AST is pretty much entering a breaking point in job kit from how empty the toolkit feels relative to certain encounters. I'm glad they took a chance to try to address the AST concerns, but the attempt they tried didn't really address any of the issues. The amount of solo-play ability AST has is abysmal because a big portion of its DPS is all siphoned into party-play buffs and balancing that out with supposed 8 other members who do higher and optimal dps -- which may or may not always exist. Not to mention, the amount of support from solely DPS buffs doesn't need a convoluted system to do what it needs to do. Literally 6 cards can be simplified into 2 different cards and due to how lackluster Astrodyne itself works, it still doesn't do well to justify fishing for the remaining seals when the cards themselves is the core mechanic of AST's job gauge. What AST needs is a lot more than what healers are afforded. More than what the entire healer role is afforded, really.

The abysmal effect of Astrodyne could've been way more impactful if it was designed to support both party play and solo play so it plays more into the support-oriented style and simultaneously doesn't make AST actually the hardest job to clear solo duties with DPS-check enrage timer, but it became the biggest joke of all by being the weakest buff and having one of the ridiculously dense weave window to execute it in due to the need for lightspeed to make those windows doable. The amount you get out of the skill simply isn't enough to really justify its design in the current toolkit.

Condense some buttons please. After using Ley Lines it should immediately turn into Between the Lines for example. Group related abilities together like that and you'd save so much space.

Cure 1/Benefic 1/Physick should all turn into Cure 2/Benefic 2/Adloquium. This wouldn't just trim 1 ability for those healers(so you don't have to keep the lower level spells on a spare bar in case you get thrown into lower level content), but it would also keep sprouts and unfortunately long time players from falling into the trap of using them after level 30.