Development Team: PLEASE PLAY YOUR OWN PVP

The fact that BLM got nerfed so quickly is a clear proof that it was seriously broken considering how excruciantly slow they tend to be to balance patch again.

No one denies that PVP balance is an iffy thing but sometimes the changes range from baffling to literally nonsensical and not only on PVP but PVE as well. They are on a serious need of having extra devs to dedicate fully to job balancing and developing, and this is an issue that its years old already

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Originally Posted by Ransu

BLM needed buffs badly. Did they over do it? A little. Was it broken? Not really, but it got nerfs immediately after.

AST is extremely strong, the nerfs were justified.

Balance is a tough act. There's always going to be over buffing and over nerfing. WAR seemed broken at first as well and that led to bloodwhetting getting nerfed which made the job basically a free kill and thus they rebuffed it back to 100%. Every pvp game goes through this stuff and balance will never be perfect.

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Never said BLM didn't need buffs early on, but the buffs it did get were ridiculous, meanwhile DNC is still the same, the favouritism couldn't be more obvious. The only AST nerfs that were justified was the removal of the aoe heavy and bind from Gravity, there was no reason to mess with it's cards arbitrarily.

Even after the nerfs I was still seeing WAR more than any other tank by a mile, with PLD in a close second. Balance is tough, I'll not deny that, but the rate which they put out adjustments is embarrassingly slow and there "reasoning" behind buffs and nerfs are nonsensical. Seriously, their only justification for nerfing SCH was it's winrate, what a goddamn joke. Buffing popular jobs because they naturally had a lower winrate and nerfing unpopular jobs because they had fewer, but better players on average.

The maps are poorly designed, CC is handled terribly, the servers suck and winrates dictate balance, the PvP team is a pathetic joke.

Almost ever pvp team in every game dictates balance around win rates and pick rates. That isn't unique to FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Almost ever pvp team in every game dictates balance around win rates and pick rates. That isn't unique to FFXIV.

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Except we don't know the pick rates, they were quite happy to show the winrates though, for all we know WHM could have double the pick rate of SCH or AST.

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Originally Posted by Dreadz

Except we don't know the pick rates, they were quite happy to show the winrates though, for all we know WHM could have double the pick rate of SCH or AST.

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To add, there are some jobs i rarely see. Majority being ranged in my experience

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

To add, there are some jobs i rarely see. Majority being ranged in my experience

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Almost every game I've played in the past month have had a range, magical or physical, DNC being the obvious black sheep. What I rarely see though are SCHs and DRKs/GNBs

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Almost ever pvp team in every game dictates balance around win rates and pick rates. That isn't unique to FFXIV.

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But all we know is win rates.

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Originally Posted by flowerfairy

That's what made WHM extremely valuable for single target bursting though. It has an unpurifiable Pacification every 30 seconds and a laser stun every 60 seconds, how can you add any more to this without being over the top broken?

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Yes WHM's impact is easy to notice but once people cover/heal the Imp player to save them and when people actually spread against your LB what do you do then? The numbers for WHM were really small on all the spells before this patch and other healers did way more things

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Originally Posted by Nanne

Yes WHM's impact is easy to notice but once people cover/heal the Imp player to save them and when people actually spread against your LB what do you do then? The numbers for WHM were really small on all the spells before this patch and other healers did way more things

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And yet it was still the most commonly played Healer...

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Originally Posted by Dreadz

And yet it was still the most commonly played Healer...

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That stems from the community perception of it being the best. Which is why it had such a low win rate and why the buffs should not have been so massive. That was a clear over compensation