Yoshi-P Statement on Player Feedback

It's not really on the players to fix the game though. I'm not in favor of personal attacks and such but I feel like you're advocating for people to walk on eggshells and that shouldn't be necessary. We should be able to call something bad or stupid if we think it's bad or stupid. Doing so isn't a personal or direct attack on a dev IMO.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

I feel is gonna be taken out of context by certain people and push out any feedback that is deemed negative in an awkward attempt to protect the devs feelings which can lead to problems in the long term.

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It probably will. However, there is a major difference between constructive negative feedback and just being a disgruntled toxic overly angry jerk that can’t be bothered to treat people civilly.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

It's not really on the players to fix the game though. I'm not in favor of personal attacks and such but I feel like you're advocating for people to walk on eggshells and that shouldn't be necessary. We should be able to call something bad or stupid if we think it's bad or stupid. Doing so isn't a personal or direct attack on a dev IMO.

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The simple fact of the matter is words do matter contrary to some on the internet’s beliefs. If you can not respond in a well thought out civil manner then don’t respond. You can leave negative feedback, but calling something or someone stupid is not constructive.

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Originally Posted by Sacred-Oblivion

FFXIV has gotten better with every expansion and that trend continued with EndWalker. Who are these whiners who say otherwise?

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It’s subjective.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

It's not really on the players to fix the game though. I'm not in favor of personal attacks and such but I feel like you're advocating for people to walk on eggshells and that shouldn't be necessary. We should be able to call something bad or stupid if we think it's bad or stupid. Doing so isn't a personal or direct attack on a dev IMO.

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If you think something is bad or stupid, you should easily be able to elaborate why that is, which would lead to constructive feedback. Calling something just bad or stupid without being able to say why is simply reductive.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

This is why it always helps to view people as human beings regardless of them being a developer or not, and why some people get out of tune when people 'present feedback'.

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More of these people need to be forced to work Fast Food and Retail for a year. That will teach them how to be humble and treat other human beings better.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

More of these people need to be forced to work Fast Food and Retail for a year. That will teach them how to be humble and treat other human beings better.

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I disagree. I worked fast food, and in a few higher end steak houses, and it made me hate people more. Working in an office, in payroll, made me cultivate my "I'm going to kill this person with kindness" tone that I use when an employee calls and is instantly confrontational due to something on their end(like not entering their hours correctly on their timesheet)

It's fine, they don't read feedback from NA or EU players.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

I disagree. I worked fast food, and in a few higher end steak houses, and it made me hate people more. Working in an office, in payroll, made me cultivate my "I'm going to kill this person with kindness" tone that I use when an employee calls and is instantly confrontational due to something on their end(like not entering their hours correctly on their timesheet)

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That's why those people need to work it. It will teach them as they'll be at the other side now.

Too many of these rude/cruel people lack empathy and compassion. The only way they'll learn is if they actually experience it first hand, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

I disagree. I worked fast food, and in a few higher end steak houses, and it made me hate people more. Working in an office, in payroll, made me cultivate my "I'm going to kill this person with kindness" tone that I use when an employee calls and is instantly confrontational due to something on their end(like not entering their hours correctly on their timesheet)

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This is precisely why. Largely a direct result of people shovelling nonsense in your face. It might make people a whole lot more reflective of their own actions - "Christ, so this is how they felt when I was accompanying my criticism with needless insults."