Autocompletion of Synths NO RISK!?!?

If you want to expend triple the amount of mats and shards then by all means knock yourself out. After realizing this I still have no intention of grinding crafts like that when I can instead use a combination of abilities that significantly reduce my chances of failure and increase quality while gaining 2000+ experience points per synth.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

If you want to expend triple the amount of mats and shards then by all means knock yourself out. After realizing this I still have no intention of grinding crafts like that when I can instead use a combination of abilities that significantly reduce my chances of failure and increase quality while gaining 2000+ experience points per synth.

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That's true, but it also takes like 2-3x as long (time wise) per synth when buffing quality. And for people like me that level only on leves, materials are a non issue. Plus, lower quality means more leves need to be done in the end so you get your leve count for the achievements higher :D

This setup works wonderfully for hamlet defense btw.

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Originally Posted by tymora

This setup works wonderfully for hamlet defense btw.

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Too bad hamlet doesn't give XP for crafting :(

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Originally Posted by Mortikhan

Not sure if they meant for this to be able to happen but this would present an opening for craft bots to reemerge.

Piece by Piece (+30 Progress) 45 Armorer

By the Book (+30 Progress) 45 Goldsmith

Grand Design (+20 Progress) 30 Weaver

Tricks of the Trade (+20 Progress) 30 Alchemist

Unerring Hand (+20 Progress) 30 Woodworking

So what I am seeing is 2 crafts to 45 and 2 to 30 and you can auto-complete your way through all the rest of the crafts (including the remainder of those classes) without EVER failing or even losing a point of durability when/if you get the other crafts to a point where they can seat 4 actions...difficulty would be non-existent.

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Who was failing these NQ, xp grind synths anyway?... Yes, if you level those FIVE jobs to those MED/HIGH levels, you can use those abilities to slowly grind thru the rest with no XP bonus whatsoever. You'll also use 6x the mats, which would cost "bots" 6x as much money or farming to level up. If anyone is actually dumb or rich enough to do that, so be it. What's the problem? With the XP bonus for quality you get now, there's no point whatsoever in botting or rushing synths. As far as there being "NO RISK?!?!".. before this patch you could just use HotG (ONE level 36 ability), and spam Standard and would break maybe 1/20 synths on a bad day. If there was a reduction in risk, it went from <5% to 0%. And that's only if you use this "new" (and also counterproductive) method. If anyone is breaking a lot on level up synths, they need better gear.

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Originally Posted by tymora

This setup works wonderfully for hamlet defense btw.

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+1 to this sir

Greater Calling/Comfort Zone with 3 x Standard/Rapid will net you a free 45 to 60% progress as well, can replace one or two of the above.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

If you want to expend triple the amount of mats and shards then by all means knock yourself out. After realizing this I still have no intention of grinding crafts like that when I can instead use a combination of abilities that significantly reduce my chances of failure and increase quality while gaining 2000+ experience points per synth.

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People keep saying "reduce risk". You are eliminating risk...completely. Just spam Careful synth (not to mention having a spare skill to throw in there to make those turn out better). When you are just about to run out of durability just pop those four skills and poof you are allllll done. Like I said. No risk of failure at all.

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Originally Posted by Burrmanchu

Who was failing these NQ, xp grind synths anyway?... Yes, if you level those FIVE jobs to those MED/HIGH levels, you can use those abilities to slowly grind thru the rest with no XP bonus whatsoever. You'll also use 6x the mats, which would cost "bots" 6x as much money or farming to level up. If anyone is actually dumb or rich enough to do that, so be it. What's the problem? With the XP bonus for quality you get now, there's no point whatsoever in botting or rushing synths. As far as there being "NO RISK?!?!".. before this patch you could just use HotG (ONE level 36 ability), and spam Standard and would break maybe 1/20 synths on a bad day. If there was a reduction in risk, it went from <5% to 0%. And that's only if you use this "new" (and also counterproductive) method. If anyone is breaking a lot on level up synths, they need better gear.

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Your last line said it all. You need better gear if failing. If there is no chance of failing why would you invest in better gear before 50? Same result with a level 1 tool as a level 48 tool on a 54 synth with NQ mats or a leve. I see lots of naked leve crafters in our future.

It is a tradeoff really.
You guarantee success with 0% quality gain. You will neither HQ for the most part, nor gain a lot of exp. AND, you need to level at least 4 different crafts to get this ability.

Thinking of it as a high level hasty hand, meant for use in hamlet defense, I am perfectly ok with such an elimination of risk.

Botters will bot regardless.

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Originally Posted by Mortikhan

People keep saying "reduce risk". You are eliminating risk...completely. Just spam Careful synth (not to mention having a spare skill to throw in there to make those turn out better). When you are just about to run out of durability just pop those four skills and poof you are allllll done. Like I said. No risk of failure at all.

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OR keep one of those skills, and a durability recovery skill, and use the other 3 slots for skills that actually increase your quality. I'm afraid simply spamming careful until you're in danger and then using those skills doesn't increase your quality nearly as much.