Are tanks currently too OP?

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

You don't see an issue with someone soloing the last boss of a dungeon?

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Usually, out of all the members of a dungeon party, the tank is in the least danger in a boss fight. Surviving as a DPS and healer is less about living or dying, and more about killing it quickly. I don't think this is necessarily an imbalance... I think if the party has more experienced players, they measure things a lot more on the output of damage and efficiency than something that only matters when the rest of the party is clearly still learning the game. We should balance jobs around players with enough knowledge to make informed decisions.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

which means it would have been faster to reset the fight

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Oh it would've been way faster to reset the fight. But the fact that a player can solo multiplayer content like that is mind-boggling. The dungeon isn't that low-level either. It was a lvl 70 dungeon.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

The dungeon isn't that low-level either. It was a lvl 70 dungeon.

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That doesn't mean it scales/synchs any tighter than a level 50 duty.
It just means the tank has more of their kit.

Still though... that's pretty baller!

To add to the debacle, we are talking about dungeon boss encounters.

Which are weaker than trialsand normal raid. Which are weaker than extreme trials. Which are weaker than savage raids. Which are weaker than ultimate content.

Dungeons are very entry-level, especially patch dungeons, which have something accessible to make it easy to get some cheap gear together. Bosses are tuned enough to make it interesting but when it comes to where jobs are balanced, it's almost at the bottom of the totem pole of importance.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

The dungeon isn't that low-level either. It was a lvl 70 dungeon.

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Actually tanks generally have much more sustain relative to the party at higher levels than otherwise. TBN, NF, etc., isn't around for low level stuff.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

We should balance jobs around players with enough knowledge to make informed decisions.

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Yes, the DRK in my party was very knowledgeable about his class. Knowledgeable to the point where he didn't need 3 other party members to kill the last boss of a dungeon. Is soloing multiplayer content in an MMORPG desirable though?

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

It's not tanks being too OP.
It's dungeons, and old content in general being extremely easy.

There was a WAR in HW who even soloed the last boss of Mhach.

So that's not surprising.

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Coupled with the fact they nerf the hp of dungeon enemies from past expansions, which in turn only makes stuff melt even faster. Though even when stormblood was current I solo'd the Mist Dragon at the end of the burn, twice, after my entire party died (as WAR). Dungeon content just hits too softly.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

To add to the debacle, we are talking about dungeon boss encounters.

Which are weaker than trialsand normal raid. Which are weaker than extreme trials. Which are weaker than savage raids. Which are weaker than ultimate content.

Dungeons are very entry-level, especially patch dungeons, which have something accessible to make it easy to get some cheap gear together. Bosses are tuned enough to make it interesting but when it comes to where jobs are balanced, it's almost at the bottom of the totem pole of importance.Actually tanks generally have much more sustain relative to the party at higher levels than otherwise. TBN, NF, etc., isn't around for low level stuff.

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Yes, I understand, but when the devs created this dungeon, did they make it with the intent of having a light party clear it, or a single tank?

Tanks aren't op. Dungeons just don't have enrage timers.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

That doesn't mean it scales/synchs any tighter than a level 50 duty.
It just means the tank has more of their kit.

Still though... that's pretty baller!

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That's not quite what I was pointing out with that comment. I don't believe the level sync is an issue. I was bringing that up more because I felt that a lvl 70 dungeon should still be at least a bit challenging.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

Tanks aren't op. Dungeons just don't have enrage timers.

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True. I think an enrage timer would probably solve the issue completely.