In 6.0 could we fix the Pet Potencies, please?

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

they are displayed under the actions tab at the very bottom. For example: fairy embrace is 150 potency..

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That's what I'm saying.
The current potencies display are "wrong".
Their actual power compare to the rest of the healer toolkit is about 70-80%.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

yeah because we definitely need to make the strongest job in the game even stronger.

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No. It's not about buffing pets.
It's about displaying the real potency according to the rest of the toolkit.
Whether it shows the real potency or make the scaling of the pet the same as the owner which result in "reducing" the potency displayed.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Is it that the pets have lower stats or is it because the master has Maim and Mend II, which increases healing and damage by 30%?

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That is likely the source of the discrepancy. The Pets have the exact same stats as their masters but not the +30% healing/damage trait.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Is it that the pets have lower stats or is it because the master has Maim and Mend II, which increases healing and damage by 30%?

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This was my initial thought as well. These traits theoretically shouldn't carry over to the pet in the same way that self-buffs technically shouldn't. However, with an admittedly small sample size, it appears as though Devotion increases the pet's damage (both auto attacks and egi-assaults) by 4.25%. This is exactly 85% of Devotion's 5% increase. So, if my results are indeed worth their salt, then the Maim & Mend traits should also be carrying over to pet damage/actions.

It really seems like egi damage is a direct 85% of whatever the SMN's damage is, including any buffs or traits that would increase the SMN's.

Consistency is key though. I would 100% appreciate accurate tooltips to show that Crimson Cyclone and Flaming Crush are 212 potency instead of the listed 250. The tooltips could lead you to believe your egi would deal the same 10k damage that you could with a 250 potency ability but it only actually deals 8.5k. That's a notable difference.

However, I would also appreciate egi's going away and transitioning to a 100% uptime of cycled demis - 3 for AoE, 3 for ST, and 3 for buff/solo. Give us Emerald/Ruby/Topaz carbuncles to initialize our demi path out of combat (or to change mid-combat) and have them function the same as a demi would as opposed to how they do now. Basically they would be stances and have their buttons change to their respective demi's to prevent button bloat.

• Emerald Carbuncle active (AoE): Demi-Garuda > Demi-Shiva > (Trance into Demi-Bahamut) > Demi-Garuda.
• Ruby Carbuncle active (ST): Demi-Ifrit > Demi-Ramuh > (Trance into Demi-Phoenix) > Demi-Ifrit.
• Topaz Carbuncle active (Solo/Buff): Demi-Titan > Demi-Leviathan > (Trance into Demi-Alexander) >Demi-titan.

I'd kind of like a FFVII spin to the trances, too, where as we level up perhaps their appearances change a bit - like how there were several Bahamuts (Bahamut, Neo Bahamut, Bahamut ZERO). Second Coil Savage in Japanese actually refers to it as Type-0 so it wouldn't be unprecedented.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Is it that the pets have lower stats or is it because the master has Maim and Mend II, which increases healing and damage by 30%?

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No the trait is applied to the pet as well. Here is the trait text

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Increases base action damage and HP restoration by 30%. Also increases base damage and HP restoration of your pet by 30%.

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While they are at it, give me control of the Farie again so I can dual cast heals.
The AI is to slow

For what it's worth as a heads up, potency displaying as something different in tooltip from the actual potency is fairly common and definitely not limited to just pet actions. None of the BLM fire spells display the actual potency for example. They at least have a tooltip for astral fire that says fire spell potency is increased, which is a step up from pet potencies, but it still says nothing about by how much it gets increased.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

For what it's worth as a heads up, potency displaying as something different in tooltip from the actual potency is fairly common and definitely not limited to just pet actions. None of the BLM fire spells display the actual potency for example. They at least have a tooltip for astral fire that says fire spell potency is increased, which is a step up from pet potencies, but it still says nothing about by how much it gets increased.

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That's a bit different since, unlike the pet potencies, the BLM potencies, specifically for fire spells but also for their other spells, are a base, with an added multiplier that just happens to be consistent (stance and enochian). But unlike the pets, since the buff is a constant it becomes irrelevant in the long run, similar to Dragoon's buff. Now I'm not saying the tool tips couldn't be a bit more accurate, but it's not entirely the same thing as the pet potencies.

Jesus christ no wonder why schoolar is in such bade shape.

Someone in SE really watched youtube on the second screen instead of DOING THEIR OWN JOB.

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Originally Posted by Darsien

I'd love to hear more thoughts from you. Considering you don't have SCH leveled, that you don't do any currently relevant content from what I can see, and that you don't even have any other healers leveled to make any form of comparison, I'd love to hear why someone with absolutely no real frame of reference thinks the job is in a bad state.

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Told by someone who also didnt level to 80 both astrologian and whm, but ok.