Glamour Log please. Just want to play the game...

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

I dont see what the problem is with the current system? What do you mean throwing something away each time you log on? Something tells me you're not using the glam dresser properly...

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Last I checked the Glam Dresser maxes out at 200 items, unless they increased that lately?

Even a very casual person like me who doesn't glam much, I already have 20-30 used up.

Also, only having like 15-20 plates when you're forced to use a whole plate for something like JUST a weapon is lul. Like I want to have a biker outfit for multiple jobs, but maybe I don't like (insert job here)'s weapon, so I gotta make a whole nuther plate just for that instead of clicking my weapon, clicking the thing in the dresser and saying "Glamour just that item" without using a plate (If there's a way to do this I haven't figured it out).

Also, having to run back to an Inn room, or an FC house, or what-not to find a glamour dresser to do this stuff is kinda meh.

WoW gave you a semi-expensive mount that has a transmog NPC right on the mount and once you have this mount, all characters on your account can transmog anytime, anywhere you can summon mounts once you are high enough level to do so (Lv20 IIRC). And your character can transmog anything that you've ever found that your character can equip at the time it dropped. Found a nice looking plate armor a few years ago with your paladin, and now you are leveling a warrior 3 years later and that plate armor is nice for the rest of the outfit? No problem! As long as you had it in your inventory at least once and it was bound to you (meaning, untradeable), you're good to go anytime.

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Originally Posted by Maeka

Last I checked the Glam Dresser maxes out at 200 items, unless they increased that lately?

Even a very casual person like me who doesn't glam much, I already have 20-30 used up.

Also, only having like 15-20 plates when you're forced to use a whole plate for something like JUST a weapon is lul. Like I want to have a biker outfit for multiple jobs, but maybe I don't like (insert job here)'s weapon, so I gotta make a whole nuther plate just for that instead of clicking my weapon, clicking the thing in the dresser and saying "Glamour just that item" without using a plate (If there's a way to do this I haven't figured it out).

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Its 400. They doubled it almost a year ago lol...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Its 400. They doubled it almost a year ago lol...

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*shrug* I said I was a casual glam person, sue me.

Even at 400, I could see a serious glam person filling that up easy. I have almost 10% of it and I haven't even been trying to collect much in the way of glams, just a few outfits because I got tired of mish-mash levelling outfits and/or had the occasional idea.

Just to give you an idea.... let's say you really like the wolf sets and want them for all of your jobs, just as a quick example, and let's say you only do the Helm/Body/Gloves/Legs/Boots. That's 5 per set and there's Tank, Healer, Caster, Ranged, DRG, NIN, SAM/MNK.

That's 35 glam slots for just 1 set of armor for all the jobs.

That ain't gonna last long if they keep releasing nice sets of armor.

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Originally Posted by Maeka

Just to give you an idea.... let's say you really like the wolf sets and want them for all of your jobs, just as a quick example, and let's say you only do the Helm/Body/Gloves/Legs/Boots. That's 5 per set and there's Tank, Healer, Caster, Ranged, DRG, NIN, SAM/MNK.

That's 35 glam slots for just 1 set of armor for all the jobs.

That ain't gonna last long if they keep releasing nice sets of armor.

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I got every piece of armor from The Copied Factory. I was wearing that on all jobs until they added Neo-Ishgardian gear and I crafted several of those sets to wear. But I'm never going to throw that Nier gear away.

Currently praying the next Nier raid has some boxy machine lifeform gear instead just so I don't feel compelled to collect every set.

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Originally Posted by Maeka

*shrug* I said I was a casual glam person, sue me.

Even at 400, I could see a serious glam person filling that up easy. I have almost 10% of it and I haven't even been trying to collect much in the way of glams, just a few outfits because I got tired of mish-mash levelling outfits and/or had the occasional idea.

Just to give you an idea.... let's say you really like the wolf sets and want them for all of your jobs, just as a quick example, and let's say you only do the Helm/Body/Gloves/Legs/Boots. That's 5 per set and there's Tank, Healer, Caster, Ranged, DRG, NIN, SAM/MNK.

That's 35 glam slots for just 1 set of armor for all the jobs.

That ain't gonna last long if they keep releasing nice sets of armor.

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I took up those extra slots the day they doubled it. As did many others. When the glamour dresser was implemented nearly four years ago, they said it would get updates in the future. Other than placing the dresser in additional locations, the slot and plate increase has only received one upgrade. They know this is an issue. They just don't want to do anything about it. It's too bad. I'm willing to bet that modernizing the glamour system would easily extend the life of FFXIV by an additional expansion at the very least. They seriously underestimate just how much importance players put on glamour.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

They just don't want to do anything about it.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't want to. Maybe are hesitant to?

They've given many plausible reasons as to why there are problems with just cranking the inventory dial to 10.

Yeah the whole system could use a rework from the ground up.. but are we as a playerbase willing to deal with what doing that entails?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I took up those extra slots the day they doubled it. As did many others. When the glamour dresser was implemented nearly four years ago, they said it would get updates in the future. Other than placing the dresser in additional locations, the slot and plate increase has only received one upgrade. They know this is an issue. They just don't want to do anything about it. It's too bad.

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No. They do care and are constantly trying to find ways of adding more ways to store things, but being able to make room is not an easy thing to do when when you have hundreds of millions of characters you need to give storage enhancements to.

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I'm willing to bet that modernizing the glamour system would easily extend the life of FFXIV by an additional expansion at the very least. They seriously underestimate just how much importance players put on glamour.

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They do not underestimate how much importance some players put into glamour. Most players seriously underestimate how resource intensive their "simple" ideas are. Even a simple boolean Glamour Log would end up increasing total character data by Terabytes and they would need to be constaintly increasing that amount of data whenever they add new gear.

"Modernization" by creation of a Glamour Log is untenable for FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't want to. Maybe are hesitant to?

They've given many plausible reasons as to why there are problems with just cranking the inventory dial to 10.

Yeah the whole system could use a rework from the ground up.. but are we as a playerbase willing to deal with what doing that entails?

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Their plausible reasons have so far been excuses. First it was an issue with how much storage space that is needed on the servers. Then it's an issue with how much more taxing it would be on the servers reading/writing to the log.

Both issues would easily be solved by simply requiring us to collect the entire armor set before it's unlocked, then just for armors it wouldn't need more than 2-3x the storage space as they use for just the fishing log.

Want to crunch it even more? Make us require the entire tier of sets for all roles and jobs before it's unlocked. And now it's reduced to a total of 5*7 times less storage needed than it would need for every individual item.

Both the inventory expansion and glamour dresser is putting a significantly more strain on the servers than if they had just implemented a proper system from the go.

I'm not sure why everyone has a fear of throwing out things they can re-retrieve.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I'm not sure why everyone has a fear of throwing out things they can re-retrieve.

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Because not everything is as easy to re-retrieve like random dungeon drops in which case there is the chance that you will never encounter it again.

I spent god knows how many runs to finish one of the outfits from dungeon drops. Yes we have unsynced now but that still doen't make it guaranteed that you will get the item you threw away quicker.