Paladin buffs

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Originally Posted by Alerith

A good PLD is a busy PLD.

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A busy paladin is a dead paladin aka Animation Lock :/

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Originally Posted by TirionCrey

A busy paladin is a dead paladin aka Animation Lock :/

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Besides Khimera, when does animation lock ever result in potential death for a PLD? Not even on Ifrit is this the case since you're usually not in a position to be plumed or erupted.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Besides Khimera, when does animation lock ever result in potential death for a PLD? Not even on Ifrit is this the case since you're usually not in a position to be plumed or erupted.

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Coincounter.

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw

Coincounter.

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Touche.

But it's still manageable. It's not like Spirit's Within has the animation length of Chaos Thrust.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Touche.

But it's still manageable. It's not like Spirit's Within has the animation length of Chaos Thrust.

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I agree it's still manageable, especially with Divine Veil now, but your question was 'potential' death, so. =P

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Originally Posted by waldo

Has anyone tanked long fights as paladin since 1.21a? Any MP issues? How about hate now with spirits within? The buff to blocks with Devine veil really noticeable?

Thanks for your input!

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One of our paladins tanked coincounter yesterday and didn't even have to run out from 100 tons, I think the buffs are pretty good could do with another skill to block though and they would be the complete meat shield.

MRD/WAR is broken, they need to be nerfed, stances would do, Berserk and Defender. (shouldn't be allowed to change stances during combat)

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Originally Posted by Halvaard_Vidan

Or bring PLD/Gld up from the low end of the DPS pool at the very least.

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I don't think that's the solution, PLD shouldn't be a DPS class, what needs to happen is WAR needs less DPS whilst in a defensive stance/role.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

One of our paladins tanked coincounter yesterday and didn't even have to run out from 100 tons, I think the buffs are pretty good could do with another skill to block though and they would be the complete meat shield.

MRD/WAR is broken, they need to be nerfed, stances would do, Berserk and Defender. (shouldn't be allowed to change stances during combat)



I don't think that's the solution, PLD shouldn't be a DPS class, what needs to happen is WAR needs less DPS whilst in a defensive stance/role.

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Yeah the War defensive stance increasing his attack speed is ass backwards

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Originally Posted by Jinko

One of our paladins tanked coincounter yesterday and didn't even have to run out from 100 tons, I think the buffs are pretty good could do with another skill to block though and they would be the complete meat shield.

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And how is he able to just straight tank now, beside the 20seconds of Divine Veil blocks?

This is a serious question btw, I haven't tanked since patch, due to work and timezone, so what has actually changed for PLD outside of those 20sec blocks?

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Originally Posted by TirionCrey

And how is he able to just straight tank now, beside the 20seconds of Divine Veil blocks?

This is a serious question btw, I haven't tanked since patch, due to work and timezone, so what has actually changed for PLD outside of those 20sec blocks?

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Enmity and damage from Spirit's Within I think is the only other notable thing. While Spirit's Within didn't get a direct damage increase, you don't have to combo it now for good damage, just high enough health. And it has an accuracy bit attached to it as well.

I understand that doesn't help with damage taken, but it can certainly help with the enmity bit.

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Originally Posted by TirionCrey

And how is he able to just straight tank now, beside the 20seconds of Divine Veil blocks?

This is a serious question btw, I haven't tanked since patch, due to work and timezone, so what has actually changed for PLD outside of those 20sec blocks?

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Aegis Boon & Divine Veil I guess.

No idea, I was the healer and was just watching, all I noticed is that on 100 tons he was taking 0 damage, it was probably just luck that coin didn't spam 100 tons, otherwise he would have been forced to run out.