New BLM spells in 5.0 Speculation

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

i just wish they would make new fire a split spell called fira firage etc

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I'm guessing you haven't looked at translations before. Spells are like fire/fira/firaga/firaja/ect in some other languages. But in English for SOME reason they have it as Fire/2/3/4. Don't know why they keep jumping between the numbers and having a suffix added to spells.

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

One adjustment I could see is whenever Enochian active Fire I and Blizzard I upgrade into Fire/Blizzard IV. Maybe see Fire/Blizzard II get an upgrade (maybe be the level V version?)

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The issue with that is that right now Fire I refreshes astral, Fire IV does not.

Just give me a bigger explosion. Foul is so boring.

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Originally Posted by Ash_

Just give me a bigger explosion. Foul is so boring.

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I've always hated Foul simply because of it's name. Powerful spell tho.

I also wish Thunder and Foul were oGCD abilities. Even if they had CDs to make them not OP. I feel like I'm loosing out on Fire 4 casts to do Thunder procs and Foul procs.

A battle rez.

With the advent of Dancer, there will be very few reasons for bringing a caster outside of progression raiding, and during prog you're taking RDM or SMN, not BLM.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

I'm guessing you haven't looked at translations before. Spells are like fire/fira/firaga/firaja/ect in some other languages. But in English for SOME reason they have it as Fire/2/3/4. Don't know why they keep jumping between the numbers and having a suffix added to spells.

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There's a book in gubal library that explains some lore explanation. The reason iirc was the spells used to be called Cure, Cura, Curaga, but when a more powerful form of Curaga was invented, there was a debate on what it should be called, and they decided all the options sounded silly/ not grand enough, and if ever a spell was invented even stronger, it would be even more ludicrously named, so they swapped to a number based system for convenience, and so it was clear what was stronger than what.

Outside of Lore, I'm assuming they thought as in the western translations of some of the older games had numeric magic upgrades, the west would prefer it, but as the same time we've had more games with suffixes than numbers so its not like its a common trend

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Originally Posted by Bacent

I'm guessing you haven't looked at translations before. Spells are like fire/fira/firaga/firaja/ect in some other languages. But in English for SOME reason they have it as Fire/2/3/4. Don't know why they keep jumping between the numbers and having a suffix added to spells.

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They gave a reason why they use the number system in English, compared to the more "traditional" system. To a degree it makes sense, but also it doesn't make sense. If we knew what the material system was like on the German and French clients, that might shed some light for us, since that was an example they gave. Also, while it's not impossible, given how the spell system seems to work, along with the traditional Japanese system, seeing a spell greater than IV/Ja seems unlikely. There are a Sa and Da suffix, but they are usually lower tiered when/if they appear in a game.

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Originally Posted by ReiMakoto

There's a book in gubal library that explains some lore explanation.

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That entry in the library was a tongue-in-cheek reference to their actual real world reasoning for making the western versions of those spells follow a number pattern instead of the suffix style many were familiar with from XI and other games. But the primary reason was to keep it simple for newer audiences that may never have played FF let alone MMOs before. But personally I think it just causes confusion for some of the intended audience.

To the point of new BLM stuff though, I would definitely like some form of Thunder nuke that perhaps depends on procs much like BRD's Refulgent Arrow.

As long as they make the class more mobile and less tied to a strict timer I don't care, meteor, ultima or whatever.

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Originally Posted by ReiMakoto

There's a book in gubal library that explains some lore explanation. The reason iirc was the spells used to be called Cure, Cura, Curaga, but when a more powerful form of Curaga was invented, there was a debate on what it should be called, and they decided all the options sounded silly/ not grand enough, and if ever a spell was invented even stronger, it would be even more ludicrously named, so they swapped to a number based system for convenience, and so it was clear what was stronger than what.

Outside of Lore, I'm assuming they thought as in the western translations of some of the older games had numeric magic upgrades, the west would prefer it, but as the same time we've had more games with suffixes than numbers so its not like its a common trend

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I wasn't aware of that book, or if I was I forgot about it, I'll have to go back and look at that again. Thank ya for the info~

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Originally Posted by Eloah

They gave a reason why they use the number system in English, compared to the more "traditional" system. To a degree it makes sense, but also it doesn't make sense. If we knew what the material system was like on the German and French clients, that might shed some light for us, since that was an example they gave. Also, while it's not impossible, given how the spell system seems to work, along with the traditional Japanese system, seeing a spell greater than IV/Ja seems unlikely. There are a Sa and Da suffix, but they are usually lower tiered when/if they appear in a game.

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I do know that in final fantasy brave exvius they have level 5 and 6 versions of Cure called Curada and Curaja, though the black mage spells are a bit different. They do have ja spells for black magic, but the da spells seem to be white magic only, while some of the Black magic spells have numerals added to them with the suffix on them as well.