After playing FFXI for a few weeks, cant wait for Trusts!

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

This has always been an issue. Even before Palace of the Dead, it was an issue. The truth is, if you want certainty that the group is all skillful, you always have to pre-make the party. Has always been this way, regardless how much the elite want the roulette system to belong to them. Use party the party tools to only demand players with clears into your party, among all those other parameters you get.

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But, that's the thing here. If my friends or FC members are busy, I shouldn't have to push back the things that I need to get done in order to wait for them. At the very least, I should not be unable to expect a basic level of competency from other people inside of a dungeon. If people were partied with me, they'd expect me to have at least a general knowledge of what I'm doing if I didn't state that I was new towards anything. Thus, it shouldn't be a huge issue to expect the same courtesy from other people. I'm not asking for perfection, I'm asking for at least some basic effort.

Suggesting that people only run with others that they're comfortable with is pushing towards a more shy and a closed social circle agenda where people like me enjoy meeting new faces and helping others along the way if it can be done. Roulette's may suffer as well. Why wait for other people when you can just party with AI's instantly and forgo any kind of social interaction as much as possible.

It almost feels like we're going to start seeing "cliques" form inside the game possibly, lol. "No, you can't be in my party. You're not Thancred!"

I've been wanting to be able to take my squadron into the overworld in addition to/in place of companions since we've only had the one chocobo for almost 6 years it's clear that they'll never add to companions so I'd rather have squadrons or trusts.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

But, that's the thing here. If my friends or FC members are busy, I shouldn't have to push back the things that I need to get done in order to wait for them. At the very least, I should not be unable to expect a basic level of competency from other people inside of a dungeon. If people were partied with me, they'd expect me to have at least a general knowledge of what I'm doing if I didn't state that I was new towards anything. Thus, it shouldn't be a huge issue to expect the same courtesy from other people. I'm not asking for perfection, I'm asking for at least some basic effort..

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I meant for primals and the like, serious fights were every player knowing the encounter well enough, will require you go pre-formed or party finder with plenty of filters.

If you want to go through dungeons, yea, queue up. There will always be a chance of a slow tank that single pulls, or a healer that only heals and never DPS, or Deeps that don't AoE... all that has always happened and will continue to happen. I think it's much more likely that being able to run dungeons with Trusts may actually lower the chance you end up with such players in your party, as now they will just go run dungeons on their own.

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Suggesting that people only run with others that they're comfortable with is pushing towards a more shy and a closed social circle agenda where people like me enjoy meeting new faces and helping others along the way if it can be done. Roulette's may suffer as well. Why wait for other people when you can just party with AI's instantly and forgo any kind of social interaction as much as possible.

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Up until very recent times, and not fully viable until word visiting becomes a thing, meeting new faces in dungeon queues meant nothing. Even now, though, stopping to talk in a dungeon seems to be considered rude as I'm just slowing the run.

Mind you, I wish there was more stuff in the game that made people meet and form friendships, but that tends to be hard to do inside dungeon runs. That would, ideally, work best in over-world content, but this game refuses to make any meaningful outdoor world content. Everything is either a rushed dungeon or a solo instance.

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

I've been wanting to be able to take my squadron into the overworld in addition to/in place of companions since we've only had the one chocobo for almost 6 years it's clear that they'll never add to companions so I'd rather have squadrons or trusts.

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Personally, I always wished I could replace my Chocobo as a companion with my retainers, making their whole leveling up mini-game a lot more meaningful.

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

Personally, I always wished I could replace my Chocobo as a companion with my retainers, making their whole leveling up mini-game a lot more meaningful.

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Exactly this ^

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

Personally, I always wished I could replace my Chocobo as a companion with my retainers, making their whole leveling up mini-game a lot more meaningful.

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Yea, that's what I want from a companion system.

I just remember having a companion in FFXI and it was neat, but I would not want a whole party with me and I feel bad making my poor chocobo fight. I just want to bring someone from my squad with me, or a retainer.

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Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

Yea, they have two flavors:

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There's way more than that.

Outpost warps, Runic Portals, Waypoints, Geomagnetic founts, Cavernous Maws, Voidwatch, NPCs, gear...

I wonder how many different npcs we will get as trusts. I went back to ffxi in January and there is quite a few so you don’t really see the same npcs all the time, (except Shantotoo).

i believe they said trusts were only going to be available for Shadowbringers dungeon content. and that while it would let you progress solo it would be more difficult and may not be possible to use them to finish every dungeon.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

i believe they said trusts were only going to be available for Shadowbringers dungeon content. and that while it would let you progress solo it would be more difficult and may not be possible to use them to finish every dungeon.

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That sounds like a massive waste of the Trust system. I hope this isn't true, or that it'll at least be expanded upon.