Why going back 10 years doing Korean Farming Content?

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Originally Posted by Remedi

Maybe because that was tied to the combat system of another game which unless they shut the game down and rebuild it again it won't happen, but that doesn't stop some ppl to keep posting how the glory days of FFXI were better, well if you want to have FFXI with FFXI battle system the game is still up and is still beign worked, ppl should honestly stop asking for FFXI content to be added here because THIS will always happen.

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But it isn't even FFXI-style content like many have been asking for. It's not even Abyssea-style content which this is probably closest to. That had daily quests, ways outside of the content to make you stronger inside of the content. It had NMs you could pop manually. It had chests with nice loot drop from normal enemies. It had waves of enemies attack areas that you had to defend.

And that's all just in one type of FFXI content.

If this is an attempt to make FFxI-style content, then it isn't the fault of the players asking for it. It's the fault of the devs failing miserably at delivering it.

This is why the devs say the community doesn't know what they want
Give them dungeons and people complain
Give them raids like omega, they complain
Give them FATES, they complain
Give them something like FFXI (Eureka) and they complain

So basically we want nothing.

The players asked however don't whitewash that, if they didn't ask for something that doesn't mesh well for the game because it's not built for it to work with those parameters we wouldn't be talking about this

@vhalinor(posts cap): My point is DON'T EMULATE IT, if ppl crave for that content go to the source don't ask for an emulation it will never live up to it

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

This is why the devs say the community doesn't know what they want
Give them dungeons and people complain
Give them raids like omega, they complain
Give them FATES, they complain
Give them something like FFXI (Eureka) and they complain

So basically we want nothing.

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Well i can guarantee you we don't want ANYTHING that resembles Diadem...and yet they cut the vendors right out of there and plopped them right at the start of Eureka to trigger your PTSD.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

This is why the devs say the community doesn't know what they want
Give them dungeons and people complain
Give them raids like omega, they complain
Give them FATES, they complain
Give them something like FFXI (Eureka) and they complain

So basically we want nothing.

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It's more like they half-ass everything and fail to innovate in anything. Making an already technologically limiting game that much more lackluster.

Still waiting for my savage dungeons...

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Originally Posted by Remedi

Maybe because that was tied to the combat system of another game which unless they shut the game down and rebuild it again it won't happen, but that doesn't stop some ppl to keep posting how the glory days of FFXI were better, well if you want to have FFXI with FFXI battle system the game is still up and is still beign worked, ppl should honestly stop asking for FFXI content to be added here because THIS will always happen.

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You know, this reminds me of a coworker I used to have. Every time they screwed something up, they'd just pass the blame: oh, well, we need to improve the processes; oh, well, it's just this client, they suck; oh, well, my computer was acting up; etc., etc., etc. Eventually, they got fired, because the company needs what it needs, it wants what it wants, and this individual wasn't delivering the way other people were.

SE is in a similar situation with FFXIV. They have a significant number of people still wanting FFXI-style content, at least alongside everything else that FFXIV does well. We continue to get uninspired, brainless grinds instead. They've got a choice: they can continue to pass the buck, as you seem to be (oh, different game, different time, different battle system, this is the best we can do), or they can find a solution, build the content. It's entirely their choice - but it absolutely is a choice. There is no outside force, no mysterious entity, that is somehow preventing the development team from emulating more of FFXI's mechanics in certain content. So, I will continue to demand better as long as I'm playing, and I will lay the blame for failures where it belongs: at SE's feet, not on some predetermined outcome foisted upon us by FFXIV's combat system.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

I know it's near impossible to read all replies in the thread I made, but there are several people in there who wanted exactly this.

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I think people may have trouble communicating their desires with 100% clarity, but I maintain that I've never seen anyone asking for a boring, mindless, difficult grind. Virtually every grind-related complaint can be traced back to a desire for meaningful difficulty, or a desire for a deeper, more complex game world, or simply something entertaining that can occupy a player for longer periods of time. These requests are antithetical to mindless content, because mindless content, almost by definition, isn't meaningful, deep, complex, or entertaining for long periods of time.

I'm actually quite a big fan of this.
It brings back the feelings of an MMO that I've always wanted in todays age.

Its very similar to old school FFXI exp parties. Where you get a party together exp on mobs where you kill the same mob type over and over again that is about 4 levels higher than you. You have a camp where you sit there and keep pulling the mobs as they respawn.

It felt very nostalgic since I played a ton of FFXI. Some people wanted this type of content. Its different than your dungeon and raid boss content for sure.

I'm not a fan of sitting there fighting the same mobs, in the same area for hours on hours to grind currency for gear that's not better than anything I have it just feels shallow to me as we've had this announcement 17 months ago and this is what we get. I know some XI fans and people who love grinding mobs and hitting them over and over till they die but to me I just never really liked this or saw the appeal i'm from old school WoW where there was:

-Attunements to get people to raid
-Reputation to grind so you could run heroic dungeons
-Run your heroic dungeon for loot + rep
-Big outdoor events and PvP events

To me Eureka is an attempt at open world and it tries to deceive you because in the end (to me at least) it's just another instance, que loading time in, 3 hour timer and away you go to grind mobs for currency that I could care less for, even the chests I opened I got grade V materia and party sprinklers. I never played XI at all but if this was in the game I dunno why people would want it the games must be very different from each other (XI vs XIV) so i'm just left kind of puzzled.