Been playing on and off for a few months again...

Thanks for all the input guys, personally the only thing I hope they fix that bothers me currently is the speed at which you can level disciple of hand jobs... The leves are rarely in the level that you are and you get so little exp, I don't understand how people hit 50 in all jobs at this point. The rest I'm fine with, if i had more people to play with I'd be level 50 with my disciple of war already but solo grinding (apparently that's the best way to level currently) gets so boring it's not even funny...

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

which is the new graphics engine, new maps and new story.

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And missed features like LS management, mail system and jumping ^^

2.0 is not a patch. It's this game, again, reimagined ground up. The patches between now and the release of 2.0 serve two functions. One of those is to impliment "2.0 type systems" as TheVedis and ChiefCurrahee have stated I suppose to trial run them and the other is to provide the community with a drawn out segue grounded in lore and in game events leading those who are currently playing into the 2.0 world which will be dissimilar to this one in a number of ways.

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Originally Posted by Disposition96

The leves are rarely in the level that you are and you get so little exp, I don't understand how people hit 50 in all jobs at this point.

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The higher the leve level, the higher the exp. You can get easy around 5k exp from a level 40 leve.
The best is to find good leves you can make without leaving the city and repeat that leve.

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Originally Posted by Disposition96

Thanks for all the input guys, personally the only thing I hope they fix that bothers me currently is the speed at which you can level disciple of hand jobs... The leves are rarely in the level that you are and you get so little exp, I don't understand how people hit 50 in all jobs at this point. The rest I'm fine with, if i had more people to play with I'd be level 50 with my disciple of war already but solo grinding (apparently that's the best way to level currently) gets so boring it's not even funny...

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theres nothing wrong witht he speed of leveling crafts right now

30k per hour EASILY grinding materials at any range almost

the biggest issue of course is keeping materials in stock to keep doing so(cant rely on leves or even count them as "speed" leveling

so 30k per hour, if you have the materials, pretty much means youll go from 49-50 in less then 4 hours(reasonable ammount of time) if you sitr and really focus on grinding


this is opposed to it being closer to 10+ hours back at launch when the exp limits were lower and we had no 51+ recipes

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Originally Posted by Felis

The higher the leve level, the higher the exp. You can get easy around 5k exp from a level 40 leve.
The best is to find good leves you can make without leaving the city and repeat that leve.

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thats the best way to do it all right, and "most" crafts have the ability to do this in one city at any given range

though some(like lw) are screwed regardless

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

theres nothing wrong witht he speed of leveling crafts right now

30k per hour EASILY grinding materials at any range almost

the biggest issue of course is keeping materials in stock to keep doing so(cant rely on leves or even count them as "speed" leveling

so 30k per hour, if you have the materials, pretty much means youll go from 49-50 in less then 4 hours(reasonable ammount of time) if you sitr and really focus on grinding


this is opposed to it being closer to 10+ hours back at launch when the exp limits were lower and we had no 51+ recipes

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How are you getting 30k per hour? I'm getting 300ISH per leve quest at level 8, I have to run back and fourth 3-4 times to do a level around the level of my alch just to level up, if I could get 30k/hour I wouldn't complain, clearly I'm doing something wrong. :/

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Originally Posted by Disposition96

How are you getting 30k per hour? I'm getting 300ISH per leve quest at level 8, I have to run back and fourth 3-4 times to do a level around the level of my alch just to level up, if I could get 30k/hour I wouldn't complain, clearly I'm doing something wrong. :/

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once again, you actualy go SLOWER doing leves then you do grinding

you get NO BONUS per synth on leves anymore, you instead get a bonus for completion of the leve itself(which isnt enough til your in the 35+ range in my opinion to outdo the ammount gained by grinding in the time it takes to run around for a leve)

but the basic math of it all


400-500 exp per synth if your grinding on most recipes in most ranges if done right
60 synths per hour(i go off a 1 per minute average)

you end up with about 24-30k exp per hour, sometimes even more if your in a really good range(which is why i call it an average cuz you can actualy get much much more)



also on a side note, you are NOT getting 300 per synth in leve on average if you really count it up right

say you get 300 per synth, in 7 synths, thats 2100 exp in 7 minutes
add 2 minutes travel time and then add in about 2k-5k exp BONUS depending on the range you are in

you end up with anywhere between 4k-7k exp in a matter of 9 minutes

on a per hour scale thats actualy closer to 26k(at the low end) and upwards of 56k or so on the high end(only doable at closer to 50 range)

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Originally Posted by Disposition96

How are you getting 30k per hour? I'm getting 300ISH per leve quest at level 8, I have to run back and fourth 3-4 times to do a level around the level of my alch just to level up, if I could get 30k/hour I wouldn't complain, clearly I'm doing something wrong. :/

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at lower lvls the mats are pretty cheap. your better off buying hte mats and grindnig to lvl 20. prob wont even cost more then 20k for most crafts.

if the recipes are easy use careful synth to gain a quality bonus at the end.

/wave Disposition96, I'm also from Fabul. I have all my DOW + DOM at 50. What I suggest you do is look for a good ls, either on these forums or ask in game. I would invite you to mine, but we are full. Also, put yourself in the search Looking for Group, it works now. Also, do a shout in Uldah. How do you like the game and its changes at this point?