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Originally Posted by Eloah

Physick is your strongest GCD HEAL

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Originally Posted by Estelle9lives

No, it is not. Physick is 400 potency whereas Adloquium is effectively 600 (300 heal+300 shield), potentially skyrocketing leagues above a Cure II/Benefic II with a crit. Shield effects are and should be accounted towards healing.

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You are not wrong by saying that shields should be considered in the overall formula. But the bottom line is a shield is exactly that a shield. Unless you are using Emergency Tactics, Physick is your strongest GCD heal, as you said yourself Adlo is a 300 heal vs Physicks 400. And yes while crit Adlos are great, the amount of times we get them is based on massive luck, so while it could be much greater than Cure II or Benefic II with or without the shield, its not something to counr on during standard gameplay.

The issue here isn't so much using Physick or not, which you should, it's not niche as you say, you and I both gave situations where Physick is warrented, and these aren't uncommon either. The real issue is encouraging fledgling Scholars to focus on Adlo more than they should. All to often have I encountered a newer SCH who thinks Adlo should be their go to heal, and then they run out of MP, even at later levels. If none of us say anything they are going to continue playing that way and have problems.

So, should Adlo be used more than Cure II and Benefic II, yes since the shield is a part of SCHs playstyle. But should we encourage people to use it as their primary form of GCD healing, no, Physick is both potency and MP efficient, especially now that we don't recover MP like we use to.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Unless you are using Emergency Tactics, Physick is your strongest GCD heal

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It's the strongest "raw" heal, but its not technically your strongest GCD heal...you have to take into consideration the damage the shield part of Adlo prevents as well.

Physick 400 potency raw heal
Adlo 300 potency raw heal + 300 potency shield (*+crit RNG) = *600

*If Crit will increase

It's dependent on incoming damage so in some cases yeah Physick is stronger if the player isn't going to take any damage, but if you know the main tank for example is taking consistent damage then Adlo is a better use of a GCD heal than Physick because not only will you do 300 potency (only 100 lower than Physick) but the shield you give them also adds another 300 as they take hits.

The only reason not to would be lack of incoming damage or MP issues. So I understand what you mean about encouraging healers not to use it as primary, but the OP was talking about savage not casual content. In casual content yeah you don't wanna spam Adlo if you just need raw healing.

I think that Psysick is a good low mp heal. Sure I prefer Adloquium and Lustrate but I like using Psysick as a post fight heal.

if you're raiding with a semi decent group avoid it like the plague

I've only ever used it on Tanks, tbh. Aldo first, and if they need topped off throw Physick at them if there are still enemies around and the shield is still up.

It *is* your strongest raw heal spell, so if the tank is flagging and you're waiting for Aetherflow cooldown to finish and have no aetherdams left (and you don't want to use Dissipation because the tank isn't in that much trouble) and you're synced so you can't use Fey Union, it's a good thing to use. Or you're using fey Union on one tank and the other needs healing and you're low on MP.

It's not a waste of space. I absolutely recommend keeping it on your hotbar.

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Originally Posted by Miste

It's the strongest "raw" heal, but its not technically your strongest GCD heal...you have to take into consideration the damage the shield part of Adlo prevents as well.

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Saying "raw" heal might help simplify it I guess.

But I'm not forgetting to factor in the shield, I'm just stating the shield isn't a heal, it's a form of damage nullification. The Tool Tips for Galvanize and Emergency Tactics say as such.

But I don't wanna argue semantics. Saying it's the strongest raw heal is fine with me.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

But I don't wanna argue semantics. Saying it's the strongesr raw heal is fine with me.

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I don't want to be that guy, but then you could also say it's the only raw GCD heal SCH has, so you can't compare it to anything if we're being that specific.

Anyway, on topic, keep it on your hotbar. And make your co-healer feel ashamed every time you have to cast it in a raid. :'D (Unless it's someone random ofc, don't be mean!)

Another thing is im playing on controller and i have greatly adapted myself playing with 2 hotbars as ast.
But as sch recently i needed more room for fairies skills on my 2 main hotbars aswell.

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Originally Posted by Scox

Physick for SCH is like Cure I for the WHM or Benefic for the AST. Would you leave either of those skills off your hotbar?

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I still have them both on my ast snd whm. But the proc of I spells is NOT ALWAYS garunteed and you cannot use it to predict in raids since of its proc timer.

I barely heal the tank cuse he wont die even if he had 40% of HP left anyways so i throw II spell if essential is on CD.
I rather burn down essential and add regen and then dps. If theres a must say hello to synastri.

Some may find this comment stupid but this is my way of healing and im one of those who contribute to the max in a dungeon. Never had an issue keeping party alive.

But apart from that. No point to discuss about this comment this was directed to the pig man.

Back to the topic:)

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Originally Posted by Johaandr

Another thing is im playing on controller and i have greatly adapted myself playing with 2 hotbars as ast.
But as sch recently i needed more room for fairies skills on my 2 main hotbars aswell.

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I haven't played on pad since 2.x, so I'm not 100% sure what it was, but there was some option to get a hotbar to appear using one of the R/L1 or R/L2 triggers IIRC. I think these extended bars gave you an extra 8 slots each, so +16 in total. That may help. I used to use general abilities on one, and then pet abilities on the other.

You could also save yourself three slots by combining your pet abilities with a Summon macro. Essentially it's a Summon macro that will modify 3 hotbar slots based on which Faerie you are summoning. Mine is like this:

https://i.imgur.com/rw6BqZ9.png