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Thread: SCH physick :)

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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    SCH physick :)

    Heya im mained ast on deltascape but have to go as sch for sigmascape.(static reasons)
    I like sch, sch is great and yada yada. There is one skill i have never used or added to my hotbar and it is Physick. I mean i never use it and never put it on hotbar.
    Fey union is love and so is embrace.
    Never had problems by NOT having it on my hotbar. even tho im a sch in "practice"(lol).

    It is a healing spell indeed but i have never used it on dungeons(w/large pulls) or any raid. But i feel like rouse + fey union does so much better job even tho i AM aware of other skills is not commandable under aetherpact.

    So i was wondering if some of you guys are using it or hide it away?
    And what are youre thoughts about it?
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    Physick for SCH is like Cure I for the WHM or Benefic for the AST. Would you leave either of those skills off your hotbar?
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    Physick is a mana efficient pick me up, so while it isn't used much, it does still have its uses.

    Rouse does nothing for Fey Union by the way.
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    I'll use it on the heads in Shinryu. It is also nice for use on tanks who like to pull big without using their cooldowns properly as filler, as they can easily chew through Fey Union & Excog. It's cheap so it can also see use when things are going terribly wrong, I'm out of mana and I just need to do something.

    That said it certainly is the Scholar tool I use least. However I never, ever leave even niche tools off my hotkeys as any class. I want my full kit available and easily accessed even for things I'll only use once in a while.

    Level-sync is also a thing and there are plenty of newbies who blunder into more damage than eos can keep up with.
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    For savage content healers in general are supposed to avoid having to cast GCD heals like Physick, Benefic, or Cure as much as possible, but they do end up needing to be used sometimes as we learn fights and especially when we don't outgear them yet. Full optimization is not really the goal during prog so you may need it sometimes.

    For SCH yeah you are supposed to avoid using Physick as much as possible. Supposed to heal with your other tools like Excog/Lustrate or even Adlo and fairy stuff while doing DPS where you can. Physick for SCH is just a bit weak so it is generally deemed as a waste of a GCD since you have better options usually.

    Even still I still keep it on my bar.
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    The small single target heals from each healer pair up really well. In dungeons where you are responsible for all the healing being done it can be easy to start to transfer that full responsibility to an 8 man group and immediately look to use Lustrate or Cure II/Benefic II whenever you see heavy damage but I found that in most content, especially anything before level 60, that you can use Physick for heavy damage and it will add up to the required hp needed when your cohealer adds their cure/benefic. This can be important when working in a group that is stressing your mp and aether stacks with loads of mistakes and avoidable deaths. Sometimes Physick really is your best option but it is a very situational skill that sees less light as your level goes up. That's why a lot of people have wanted it to proc something beneficial like Whm and Ast but it seems like that will never happen. I personally wanted to see Physick become an ability temporarily every time your fairy does a crit.
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    You... Don't have Physick on your hotbars? What do you use when you sync down than?
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    I did not just read half of what I read. You need Physick, period.

    Physick is your strongest GCD heal, barring an Emergency Adloquium. Admittedly, unlike the other healers, your secondary heal Adlo, yes Adlo is the SECONDARY heal, is used more frequently compared to Cure II and Benefic II. What is "supposed" to be done is casting Adlo on a party member if they have lost roughly 12.5%-25% of their HP, between 25-50% you'd use Physick anything below 50% you'd want to Lustrate or use an Emergency Adlo, and once you get it, Excognition. By that extent, Succor, though your primary source of AoE healing, is meant to act more as an AoE Adlo. Granted every situation is different and you must be adaptable, but the point is you need all of your tools at your disposal. SCHs MP is a lot less plentiful as it once was, so you'd want to save MP wherever you can.

    Also to those wondering why Adlo is the "Secondary Heal", it matches up with Cure II and Benefic II in Level, Potency, and RNG bonus. Most people tend to think its the "Primary Heal" simply because its a Scholar skill compared to an Arcanist skill. But if SB didn't make it more obvious, the classes are just a leftover from the old 1.0 system, and SE can mix and match the skills as they please. Physick and Resurrection are there for SCH not SUM. I mean Miasma II was an Arcanist skill but now is a SCH exclusive, and as many people point out Arcanist lined up more with SCH than SUM.
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    Not having a high usage of it doesn't mean you should remove it from your hotbar, cause there could still be situation where you'd need to use it.
    Put it back on your hotbar.

    But Physick is indeed rarely used because of Lustrate/Excog/Adlo and the fairy in end game content.

    Other than that, Physick is fine.
    Every healer need at least a low cost GCD heal they can spam (for whatever reasons).
    Rarely used because of the other abilities indeed, but still has its place.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 01-25-2018 at 07:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Physick is your strongest GCD heal
    No, it is not. Physick is 400 potency whereas Adloquium is effectively 600 (300 heal+300 shield), potentially skyrocketing leagues above a Cure II/Benefic II with a crit. Shield effects are and should be accounted towards healing.

    On topic, Physick is a niche spell for SCH, simply because it's tied to the GCD and is the smallest potency-per-gcd in your whole toolkit. SCH's real strenght is the insane amount of OGCD healing/fairy carry potential you have, which lets both you and your co-healer maximize your DPS output. You'd basically be using Physick in the following situations:

    - You are completely mana starved and someone needs a single target heal
    - If another player already has an Adlo but still needs to be topped off further (rare, but can happen)

    Otherwise Physick should be the last thing you use for single target healing.
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