Dps que times

This would not help queue times at all i don't think.
People may very well just level in Palace of the Dead come Stormblood.

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Originally Posted by Astrus

So a tank and 3 DPS keeping themselves alive? Or a healer and 3 DPS with one of the DPS tanking?
I don't really see this working out for Light Party content, which is likely going to be the majority of "problematic" queues given that there's going to be two shiny new DPS classes to level through the SB story before people get to the Full Party content.

For Full Parties this might work but then I already see PF groups taking an additional DPS for content that can be healed or tanked solo so the only thing this would really effect is DF matchmaking.

Unless we see our parties getting expanded I think it highly unlikely they'd change the matchmaking.

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No...

A a party with 5 slots. 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps.

This is what most other games have, and it wouldn't require all that much re-balancing like people say, it'd just require bosses to have 20% more health, if they even decided that they needed to adjust them since they're old content, and for dungeons with 4 things that people need to step in, they'd add a 5th one.

People who say it wouldn't help queue times don't understand math, and the actual proportions of tanks and healers to dps. It probably wouldn't shorten them to like 5 minute queues, but it'd be a more consistent wait time

This was at the last eorzea census

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These proportions would favor a 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps composition. And it'll only get more skewed towards dps in stormblood with Samurai and Red Mage

I think its the other way, we need to encourage more players to play different roles and more DPS players to play Tanks or Healers. Adding a 3rd DPS spot to help with low damage will be pointless, if all 3 DPS players are doing low damage. We need to find a solution for our Tank shortage and DPS players that like to underpreform.

Other MMORPG's where you have 1 (Tank), 1 (Healer) and 3 (DPS), have already shown us that adding one more DPS wont do much.

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Originally Posted by Maero

This would not help queue times at all i don't think.
People may very well just level in Palace of the Dead come Stormblood.

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It would help queue times for populated content at least. The queue times arise from imbalances in the T:H: D ratio due to the overpopulation of DPS, which would be somewhat lessened by increasing the required number of DPS.

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Originally Posted by bonez

I think they should add a 3rd dps slot to the party makeup in Stormblood. This would shorten que times and make it easier to carry low dps players.

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Dunno in other servers, but got fair times with dps those days. About 15'.

Once I got an instapop and were thinking "omg I queued tank not my dps" but happened only once.

So in some other words, improving queue wait times by adding an additional DPS, which might need to be carried, even though the game isn't that hard. hmmm Even if new areas are a bit harder a four man team would still be ideal. I'm tired of having to carry DPS at times and an extra one would just be a pain. Besides queue wait times aren't that bad. Now you can have companion out and do something else while you wait.

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Originally Posted by Averax

No...

A a party with 5 slots. 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps.

This is what most other games have, and it wouldn't require all that much re-balancing like people say, it'd just require bosses to have 20% more health, if they even decided that they needed to adjust them since they're old content, and for dungeons with 4 things that people need to step in, they'd add a 5th one.

People who say it wouldn't help queue times don't understand math, and the actual proportions of tanks and healers to dps. It probably wouldn't shorten them to like 5 minute queues, but it'd be a more consistent wait time

This was at the last eorzea census


These proportions would favor a 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps composition. And it'll only get more skewed towards dps in stormblood with Samurai and Red Mage

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And yet in most other games you see the same suggestion despite them already having larger parties than our 4 man Light Party.
The minor impact a move to a 5 man composition would have wouldn't outweight the hassle of retooling the way the entire party system works.
On the EU datacenter, with joining in-progress enabled, I already have queue times averaging 7 minutes as a DPS main, unless I'm queueing outside of my server's prime time or for a specific content nobody likes doing via the DF, that obviously bumps things up. Adding a fifth party member to fit a third DPS would reduce that to what, 5 minutes? Four? Hardly worth the resources the change would take.
I'm actually used to queues of 45 minutes and more as a DPS in games with 5 man parties.

Now what I could see them doing is just foregoing Light Party content in the future and simply go with Full Parties for everything, even the leveling dungeons which would then be designed with that in mind from the start.
That would be really interesting to see and wouldn't require them to change the way Light Parties work in older content.

Queue times(for relevant content) aren't that bad and two new DPS won't change it nearly as much as people are browning their britches over. Healers and tanks get so nettled over there being two new DPS because they're gonna heal and tank- that means the base is largely going to be the same percentage as before, with a little dropoff as people try new classes. And that's gonna balance out after the initial rush anyway- people are always gonna play the role they like.

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