I think it's a good idea. Just have it set to off by default and have a tutorial showing people how to use it. Make it very simple to use. I feel that a lot of people would use it because it's so much quicker than getting people to go download third party programs if they don't have them already and then setting them up, etc. This way it would all be in client, easily accessible, and super user friendly without having to use third party programs. I honestly can't understand why people are against this.
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Yes it is different because to use a third party program you have to tab out of game, start it up, wait for it to load, enter the chat room address, wait for that to load. An in game client could have a simple on/off switch. Much simpler.
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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
I doubt that. Any examples that are not subject to personal bias?
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04-23-2017, 09:13 AMDaikiKiyoshi
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04-23-2017, 09:17 AMValkyrie_LennethPretty much every other MMO that has built in voice chat, no one uses it because it is awful. I'd rather the dev's not waste time working on something few would use and most would come on the forums to complain about, especially when there are many, better, 3rd party apps most already use.Quote:
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04-23-2017, 09:18 AMJim_Berry
In my personal experience, if it's not a voice chat system used to discuss how to do a fight when it's a learning party, voice chat become extremely annoying or distracting, depending on the situations.
DISTRACTION:
If it's general chat while farming, some people tend to do too much laughing and talking that they start losing focus and start messing up or dying.
ANNOYING:
Going overboard with the mama jokes, telling the tank his dps is too low, or just TELLING people what to do rather than SUGGESTING what they should consider/try out.
In DCUO and ESO, I generally stay out of voice chat because I like to hear the game's audio, primarily the music. I do not want to hear a rap battle coming from your mic when you don't even have the mic to your ear to hear asking you to turn it down.
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If I join someone's invite to PS4 chat, Discord, TS, etc, and they are talking about everything other than what we're running, or the game in general, I will leave the chat after some time. If we're playing FFXIV, I care not of you K/D in Call of Duty. -
04-23-2017, 09:24 AMVidu
This has been discussed many times and the official response it: It is in order to prevent harrassment.
And I can see why they choose not to implement voice chat - harrassment via voice chat would be more difficult to "prove"; right now if someone is harrassing you via chat there will always be logs to prove what has been said by whom to who etc.
Having an official voice chat would also send the strong message of "You have to use voice chat to play this game, since its an official feature and the devs obviously intended you to use it!" - and thats while 90% of the game really dont require a voice chat at all.
As a female player I also recall a certain instance each time someone asks for voice chat in the game: Back when Titan HM-kill-sells were a thing, I was standing in Ul'dah, reading a shout of a group of people offering a free Titan HM-Kill for any woman who would join their TS. I am still a little disgusted by that - but knowing that that sort of people exists on top of all those people who'd tell me what they did to my mom or who scream and flip out over a wipe, tell people to kill themself etc. etc. really makes me not want an official voice chat.
Besides: There are already voice chat tools that we can use, they're just not official, so SE wouldnt have to deal with all the harrassment-bullshit that could happen in there - it also gives us more control over who we're voice chatting with and when we are voice chatting. I'm already seeing all those threads about people who have been kicked because they didnt wanted to use voice chat (specially in content that really, really doesnt need you to use it).
So, good reasons against voice chat:
- prevents harrassment (specially for females, if you ask me)
- sends the signal that voice chat is now mandatory - when it is not. Except for savage and ex-primals every content in this game can be cleared without voice chat - and even those can be done without.
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04-23-2017, 09:45 AMMoonlite
Also remember SE isn't very good at implementing features. They also seem to nickle and dime server structure. Not such a good idea to add extra strain.
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04-23-2017, 09:48 AMValkyrie_LennethThings I have read on forums pertaining to those MMO's. I have never actually used them, since I tend to use voice chat outside of games sometimes as well, and only being able to use it while in a particular game is annoying.Quote:
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04-23-2017, 10:46 AMFyce
The number of roulettes I do with all players speaking the same language is actually quite low. I can't see it being used in Europe at all.
So taking the time to develop a feature as well as upgrading data bandwith by a big amount for something that won't get used by a lot of your playerbase is pretty much a wasted investment. -
04-23-2017, 10:56 AMera1Ne
Since FF14 players at the moment, play either on PS or PC you wouldn't even be able to talk to everyone, cause there is no discord, ts or any other voice chat on PS4, except their own PS party. There isn't an game with ingame cross play voice chat aswell. Consoles are more open than in the past, but these are still closed system after all. Some stuff is allowed, others is not.
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04-23-2017, 10:57 AMStitches1974WoW has built in voice chat and rarely anyone uses it, because it's so bad and I'm speaking from experience in using it.Quote:
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04-23-2017, 11:01 AMStitches1974Discord has a mobile app that works great. A few of my FC members use it.Quote:
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