I'm well aware on how PotD was built and what it was intended for, however a challenge is not repeating something you know you have mastery of, going back to floor 51 is just an attempt on SE to ensure players have a decent pool of players to be matched with in order to progress. You're not growing in skill for going back to floor 51 with 99/99, running through bosses that are FATE level of difficulty, if you wiped on floor 170 from the boss because of it's mechanics redoing story based levels isn't helping you understand a boss fight on a set of optional floors. A player that has access to 101 would already know how items and traps work as they have seen it previously for 100 floors, so you're not learning here on how to manage items or traps, it's a development choice that honestly has no real benefit to redoing once one has proven capable of handling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airget
PoTd Fixed party suggestion : FL101 Check point
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11-11-2016, 06:44 AMJetstream_Fox
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11-11-2016, 07:52 AMMomomiMomiIt does have benefit, you just don't like it.Quote:
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11-11-2016, 07:56 AMUltimatecaliburActually all the bosses in 110 through 190 save for 150 boss are all buffed versions of the floor-100 bosses and maintain all their major mechanics. If you are wiping on any of them due to mechanics rather than a dps check practicing on the weaker version would be a great way to improve.Quote:
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Floors 101+ are also tuned with the expectation that a group starting them already has a fair number of pomanders stored up. -
11-11-2016, 10:10 AMJetstream_FoxI'm aware that they're the same, I was stating that if you encountered any mechanic within 101 that you didn't already deal with in 1-100 it doesn't make sense to practice the things you already know how to handle. It's better to practice what you don't know that way in the event you have to deal with them you can accordingly. For instance if you play a fighter practicing against a zone heavy character wouldn't help you prepare for a rush down character. Alternatively playing on hard doesn't prepare you for extreme, as things might react to situations differently within the new difficulty bracket.Quote:
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11-11-2016, 11:35 AMwhiteblade89
I'd be cool with a checkpoint at 101. It's hard to remain motivated knowing you have to trudge through 51-100 all over again.
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11-11-2016, 04:54 PMMature
Dont get me wrong I'm not asking to start from scratch from 101 what I'm suggesting is you HAVE to start from 51 and make your way up to 200 but if u reach 101 a check point should happen until you clear the floor 200 with you fixed party.
And again once you hit 99/99 blue chests become useless so the only thing left to do is to just run and get onto the cairn and move to the next floor. Floor 160+ take a bit of time to complete if u want the hoards specially reaching the zoo that is 170....
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11-12-2016, 02:36 AMFived
At first, I was all for the reset or checkpoint to floor 101 as well. But then I felt like it would become a complete farm run that would actually make the rewards commonplace. There is no "weekly lockout" or anything compared to raids. So, in theory, you would end up running 100-200 over and over again thus lowering the value of the rewards. I get it, it does suck having to redo the 50-100 floors over just to get to the "good stuff". However, without that in place, everyone would have the mount and minion. I do feel for people that wipe at floor 109 or something and have to go back to 51, but a lot of people wanted "tough 4 man" content that was similar to raids. So here is content that 4 people can run over and over with a challenege.
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11-12-2016, 02:45 AMFoxyArekuYou can't do 101+ in a matched party so this is not true.Quote:
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11-12-2016, 03:10 AMNefarioCall
I have yet to play 101+ even though i want to, due to the Fixed party rule.
So really, my only hope of playing this content is to Solo it.
I finally cleared 100 yesterday with my +99/99 WHM, but i did wipe on my first attempt at the boss and so could not continue to 101.
I typically cleared each set with about 10 minutes left on the timer.
SO this brings three thoughts to mind:
#1 - How about being able to retry the current 10 floor set until you clear, no matter the KO count, but just not be able to continue?
Perhaps this is already the case but i don't know because i have yet to reach 101. But basically, everything takes practice. Especially solo. Once we learn how fights work, in actual practice, not just watching a youtube, it gets easier for sure. I'd like to be able to practice and learn a certain boss 5 times if that's what is necessary to learn it, without having to trudge through 5-10 hours of grid just to attempt it again. Hey, if i die any number of times before i beat the boss, sure, don't let me proceed to the next set. But let me try it for practice now that i'm there until i'm satisfied before i restart the whole dungeon.
#2 - Is the 60 minute timer really necessary for challenge or does it just get in the way?
I'm a bit conflicted about this, because i understand how the need to manage ones progress against the clock is a part of the challenge, but is it really necessary? Can it be set to 90 minutes?
#3 - I agree with OP.
51-100 i've done countless times with party and will do so again. Because it's in a different category than 101+, it just ends up feeling like an oh, gotta spend a few hours on these floors before i get to the real thing again kind of thing. -
11-12-2016, 08:49 AMMariel_Crystallie
Did u guys realize 101-150 bronze chest drop more Gelmorran Potsherd? .
If the checkpoint on 101 , I really don't know what's going to happen with Materia V price on markets... @__@