[Cash Shop Idea] Game Time Token

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Originally Posted by alimdia

First you have to understand why RMT is bad, and it's not bad "just because people say it's bad".

Gil sellers use bots to obtain gil, SE has no control over them as they create hundreds of accounts for this, you suddenly have a huge amount of illegally obtained gil in the economy, more gil than players wold get by themselves, this drives up prices and ruins the economy, not to mention that this doesn't benefit the publisher in any way.

A sub token would not involve bot-generated gil for the most part, SE can control the price of the sub token just by controlling supply and demand of items, this has a different impact on the economy and it's an impact SE can directly control, and the company would also gain extra profit from this.

A sub token has very few cons compared to 3rd party RMT.

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It still does allow for a pay to win. You can just use real money to become easily rich in game, And that's why I'm against any form of RMT.

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Originally Posted by Chocolys

It still does allow for a pay to win. You can just use real money to become easily rich in game, And that's why I'm against any form of RMT.

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end game gear comes from raids.. so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha

end game gear comes from raids.. so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Never heard of sell runs? sell runs with loot? no?

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great idea

the skilled playerbase shrinks and the less skilled playerbase buy gil to earnt rare gear from carry runs, mounts etc etc

More gil in the system, prices drop, people buy more, eventually gil will be worthless, no one will do anything but buy gil to buy in game items, yay yippie, GREAT IDEA, no really :D ><

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Originally Posted by Chocolys

It still does allow for a pay to win. You can just use real money to become easily rich in game, And that's why I'm against any form of RMT.

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How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, at most you can access materia V slightly faster than other people and even then the DPS you gain from materia is very low, I forgot the actual number but it was something like less than 3%.

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Originally Posted by Laurima

Never heard of sell runs? sell runs with loot? no?

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People can already buy runs without having sub tokens implemented in the game.

I see your points.
I'm all for it.

I'll ju$t $pend my money on game time for my friend. Becau$e people $uddenly went from hating the Ca$h $hop to making $ugge$tion$ on what to add next. What in the $ane hell i$ going on, guy$? $eriou$ly.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, at most you can access materia V slightly faster than other people and even then the DPS you gain from materia is very low, I forgot the actual number but it was something like less than 3%.



People can already buy runs without having sub tokens implemented in the game.

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Yes they can

but if you look at the prices needed for a full tier clear on say Midas Savage? with loot? even now, you would be looking at hundreds of millions in gil, few people outside of hardcore sell run groups and hardcore crafters has access to such funds, if SE offer reduced gil for purchase to the masses, more people will buy gil and things will go mad ><

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Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha

end game gear comes from raids.. so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by alimdia

How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, at most you can access materia V slightly faster than other people and even then the DPS you gain from materia is very low, I forgot the actual number but it was something like less than 3%....

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The game is a lot more than about End Gear, for example:

- Want a big FC/Personal house: Why not Sell Cash-Shop items and use money to buy the house directly. Very fair to the other FCs who were worked their butt off collecting gils trying to buy that nice house that you have earned doing nothing in game for it.

- Got a new rare items/decos to be sold or bought on the marketboard? Why bothering with a normal price when you know Cash-Shop items sellers can afford for artificially overprice. Screw the regular gils earners..

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I rather like how Blizzard handled theirs. Can only purchase something like 24 tokens every 2 years and it's a secure purchase and sale since it's through the auction house and their online store. It wouldn't hurt anyone other than the gil sellers and would also help people with making some gil. I have never had any luck with market boards/auction houses so I'm pretty poor on a constant basis.

Token system is a good idea. Worked well in all the games its been in.