NO MORE ALEXANDER(NM)!

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I think they should make Savage more hardcore. If you die in Savage you should lose "1" piece of gear randomly. Or you have to go collect your corpse and if you don't get it or crash you lose all your gear.

This game is very casual. Even the hardest content is casual. You have no penalties for losing in this game.

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Yeah, I don't see anyone liking that the day they lose the piece of gear they'd spend weeks grinding to get.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

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Throw your face at an encounter until you lose enough to learn how the encounter works. Exploit the encounter that never changes ever and grind over and over for loot that will get replaced in a month.

You pretty much zerg a powerful monster until it dies. Really fun content, really. Nothing about the encounter ever changes, you can't fight it any differently and you have to follow the script. There is no other ways to beat the monster and since its in an instance it never affects the world around you.

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Forgive my ignorance but doesn't that really just boil down to practice, practice, practice?

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Originally Posted by Subucnimorning

Normal mode would have less of a negative effect if it was released maybe a month AFTER savage and savage tuned around i180+ gear instead of i190+, then people progressing on savage wouldn't have such a big burn out of doing the same raid multiple times like that problem WoW faces with normal/heroic/mythic.

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But if people did not decide to take the easy route to gearing and grind Alexander Normal, they would not burn out on Alexander, it would take longer to gera up for Savage, but that is a choice that players make, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

Go play PSO on DC then. When you die, you drop not only your Meseta (Money) but your weapon as well.

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Strategy:
Throw your face at an encounter until you lose enough to learn how the encounter works. Exploit the encounter that never changes ever and grind over and over for loot that will get replaced in a month.

You pretty much zerg a powerful monster until it dies. Really fun content, really. Nothing about the encounter ever changes, you can't fight it any differently and you have to follow the script. There is no other ways to beat the monster and since its in an instance it never affects the world around you.

People throw around the word "Casual" way too much, when every single content in this game is casual.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

TL;DR: Dirty filthy casuals are in MY game! Take them away so I have room to stroke my ginormous e-peen!

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E-penis is worst penis.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

TL;DR: Dirty filthycasuals are in MY game! Take them away so I have room to stroke my ginormous e-peen!

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you are making it more selfish than what the meaning of my post is, I do know that there are casual players out there... but it's called RAID for a reason, it's supposed to be the hardest content in the game if you going to step in here you know what's coming for you. so for our pov the people who actually raid, I'm just asking for a motivation, to keep pushing myself to come everyday and do this content, is that so bad? there's no sense of satisfaction when I beat A1,2,3S my group is taking a break since we all got bored of doing things we already accomplished with look been the same and no lore or anything that make me look up for the next fight aside from stress we stopped and I don't miss it tbh, I currently find myself doing my dailies and logging out leveling classes slowly since we aint getting nothing new till November...

suggestion: I just tough about what can be done to improve this, maybe.... MAKE ALTERNATIVE or EXTENDED CT that reveals just a little more information of what's coming next, kinda like every game HARD mode that unlocks secret ending that will be a + for me. and maybe not dropping NM gear just leave the gear for (SV)

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Yeah, I don't see anyone liking that the day they lose the piece of gear they'd spend weeks grinding to get.



Forgive my ignorance but doesn't that really just boil down to practice, practice, practice?

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I remember FEARING going into content in older games. Dying meant losing my gear or having it seriously damaged, and repairing it had a chance to destroy it. You had to learn the environment watch what you do and pull and monsters (hard ones) were on the bottom of some of the deepest dungeons in the game.

Now, this game has a mode that takes you straight to the boss, no fear or stress of losing your gear.

You didn't have time to practice. If you failed it meant starting ALL over from the beginning. You also had other players to challenge so if you pulled to slowly when you got to said bosses you would lose them. Getting down to the bottom of the dungeon, IF You made it took about 30 minutes if not more. Just running to it or trying to rush the dungeon to get back to where you were also had a chance of killing you.

Older games didn't LET you practice. If you stayed and practiced and lost it meant losing your spot and having to start over.

This very GAME is casual. Your concept of Practice is basicly zerging because you lose nothing for failing.

This game has very little fear or stress involved, so when you actually get what you want its short lived. Rewards don't feel like rewards.

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Originally Posted by Taei

i agree with OP but I also think that we need to get rid of statics. the Static life is terrible and full of drama.

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Incorrect. Anything is better than playing with randoms you don't know, and doing challenging content with friends is the best thing this game has to offer.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

But if people did not decide to take the easy route to gearing and grind Alexander Normal, they would not burn out on Alexander, it would take longer to gera up for Savage, but that is a choice that players make, isn't it?

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The topic isnt about being Burnt out. Its about not having the motivation to do savage because - the gear looks the same - no story/lore - same boss design/mechanic types(could be fixed by your suggestion).

Only 1 thing in the topic is affected by directly farming NM nonstop, and its not the main issue(story is)


That being said, i dont agree with OP. I did coil for the fights, not story. However, alex fights are pure garbage imo.

I agree. Taking the lore away made savage dull. I'm still doing it cuz I guess I like the abuse? But really I constantly question the point... Coil= difficult contenti downed with my friends and was rewarded with unique gear, a cool story and of course dat sweet sweet epeenage. Savage= beat content to get same set of gear with higher stats. No unique gear. No story. th epeen feels used and tired lol

I don't mind that Normal exists, but I think it's unfortunate that we lost raids that were the difficulty level of Coil in the trade. Savage is tuned like SCOB (Savage), and Normal is easier than most EX primals. I want to raid again but don't want the stress and pressure of fights so brutally tuned as the current Savage fights are.

I don't know if I would go as far as to say "take away Alex NM". But it do think there needs to be more endgame stuff that's fairly challenging and not on duty finder. Turn this thing back into an MMO and not a glorified Dragon Age game with a subscription fee.