I really dislike what they have done to white mage

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Originally Posted by Samsta

I want them to bring back either one of those traits, realistically the graniteskin. And if we look the burst heals of white mage, tetra is pretty much on par with essential dignity, although ed having 20s shorter cd, yeah bene is good but is has 5 min cd, you can only use it once maybe twice in a fight, now we are left with assize which is good yeah, there is no denying that whm has better burst heal but it is not better by a huge amount. Yeah whm is meant to outheal every class, but I am not so sure how it is meant to do that anymore.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

there is no denying that whm has better burst heal but it is not better by a huge amount. Yeah whm is meant to outheal every class, but I am not so sure how it is meant to do that anymore.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

there is no denying that whm has better burst heal but it is not better by a huge amount.

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So the real complaint is that WHM no longer vastly better all around, only marginally better certain ways?

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Originally Posted by Samsta

there is no denying that whm has better burst heal but it is not better by a huge amount. Yeah whm is meant to outheal every class, but I am not so sure how it is meant to do that anymore.

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I underlined where you conceded your point and answered your own question.

I'm having so much fun with all these posts about WHM being bad now that AST is good. Seriously, I want more of them.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

I want them to bring back either one of those traits, realistically the graniteskin. And if we look the burst heals of white mage, tetra is pretty much on par with essential dignity, although ed having 20s shorter cd, yeah bene is good but is has 5 min cd, you can only use it once maybe twice in a fight, now we are left with assize which is good yeah, there is no denying that whm has better burst heal but it is not better by a huge amount. Yeah whm is meant to outheal every class, but I am not so sure how it is meant to do that anymore.

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You are left with Assize, Asylum which is place and forget, PoM which increases your healing output, and the AMAZING Divine seal which is the strongest healing buff in the game in a awesome 1 minute cooldown, without mentioning the amount of DPS a WHM can provide.
The accuracy problem will probably be fixed in the future patches.
Sure, the stoneskin thing SE did was ridiculous, but blaming AST as you clearly did in your post is a no no.
All healers have similar healing kit.
All healers should be able to replace each other if one is not available at the moment, most of the WHM players are over reacting for no reason, sure some changes to some traits here and there, but not this whole drama.

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Originally Posted by Muahbec

You are left with Assize, Asylum which is place and forget, PoM which increases your healing output, and the AMAZING Divine seal which is the strongest healing buff in the game in a awesome 1 minute cooldown, without mentioning the amount of DPS a WHM can provide.
The accuracy problem will probably be fixed in the future patches.

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The accuracy problem can be fixed right now with melded accessories.

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Originally Posted by J-Dax

So the real complaint is that WHM no longer vastly better all around, only marginally better certain ways?



I underlined where you conceded your point and answered your own question.

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having a better burst available every now and then does not mean they outheal other healers. Once you use bene you are left with assize and tetra for 5 mins.

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Originally Posted by TatoRazzino

I'm having so much fun with all these posts about WHM being bad now that AST is good. Seriously, I want more of them.

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Who said we're bad? Who said AST is good enough either? You're all fighting towards each other instead of fighting against SQEX to see REAL re-balancing for a wonderful class like AST that has so much more to offer but no one cares about if it can heal enough to raid.

WHMs don't need to outheal other healers in the sense that the other two are nowhere near them in charts; this is a misconception in my opinion. What they need to do – and they are doing it, in my opinion – is doing much more with less resources. Take Cure III as an example. AST can obviously top a party after a big burst with two casts of Helios and a SCH can do it with Indomitability, but this means that the AST will need to use two GCDs and 2K MP to do it and SCHs will need to use one stack of Aetherflow, which means that they won't be able to use as many Lustrates as they would. Cure III is a unique skill that can easily outperform any of those I mentioned. The same can be said for Medica II (which has 100 more potency than Aspected Helios, even without Divine Seal). If you're not outperforming ASTs and SCHs, you're not playing your job right; and SE can't fix that.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Who said we're bad? Who said AST is good enough either? You're all fighting towards each other instead of fighting against SQEX to see REAL re-balancing for a wonderful class like AST that has so much more to offer but no one cares about if it can heal enough to raid.

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Who said that? You want the list alphabetically or chronologically?

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Originally Posted by Samsta

having a better burst available every now and then does not mean they outheal other healers. Once you use bene you are left with assize and tetra for 5 mins.

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Again you are only reinforcing the idea that WHM is no longer better in every healing respect. There are differences in playstyles and capabilities, we tried it with the other healers being massively more powerful it didn't work.

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Originally Posted by J-Dax

Again you are only reinforcing the idea that WHM is no longer better in every healing respect. There are differences in playstyles and capabilities, we tried it with the other healers being massively more powerful it didn't work.

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But shouldn't whm be better in almost every healing respect since they don't have any utility anymore? being a little better in burst healing does not make a class unique and right now playing it feels dull. Gonna stick with astro until they change things.