Xeno's 3.0 Aggressive Style Warrior Guide

Really good guide as usual, Xeno.

In terms of the OT rotation, I think this one posted awhile ago is about as min/max as you can get:

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Originally Posted by Ippiki

(prepare Abandon with Infur + Veng extend before pull) > HS(Brutal) > Maim(IR) > Eye(Xpot) > Fract > HS(late Berserk) > Fell(Infur) > Fell(Raw) > Maim > Eye(Brutal) > Heavy > Maim > Eye > Fell > Fract(pac)

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IMO, move Brutal after Maim or Eye, but for the most part this gives you an IR + Pot + Maim + Eye buffed Fracture, 2 fully buffed FCs, and a Berserk buffed FC + Fracture at the end. I don't parse b/c PS4, but this seemed the most ideal to me, though I'd love to see numbers with your rotation vs this one.

Your MT rotation is exactly what I use, so I'm glad to get some confirmation from another WAR that that opener is ideal. I typically use Unchained after OP/Tomahawk, though, as I've yet to have any aggro issues (will probably need to make the switch eventually).

Also, I really like SW over Awareness to this day (except in the case of an auto-crit heavy fight like Shiva Bow phase), because:

1. It nearly negates any crit and isn't RNG dependant
2. You can use it as a pseudo-Equilibrium in Deliverance while maintaining Equilibrium's TP refresh

Ideally, though, in fights like AS1 or AS3 you just replace Flash with SW and keep Awareness.

Nice video. Like that he made a point in his own way that tanking comes first then DPS. Although im confused about a certain thing.

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Originally Posted by Twilite

Nice video. Like that he made a point in his own way that tanking comes first then DPS. Although im confused about a certain thing.

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Yeah, I feel like Xeno is one of the only aggressive tanks who say that and actually mean it rather than just giving people lip service.

That thing I was confused about was what he said about foresight. So I did some asking around and I can see why foresight isn't seen as very useful. I didn't understand the difference between damage reduction and defense increase, the latter having a smaller impact.

I'm probably going to be studying most of his videos.

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Originally Posted by Twilite

That thing I was confused about was what he said about foresight. So I did some asking around and I can see why foresight isn't seen as very useful. I didn't understand the difference between damage reduction and defense increase, the latter having a smaller impact.

I'm probably going to be studying most of his videos.

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+20% defense isn't the same as 20% flat damage reduction. I don't know the maths behind this but appearently 20% defense equals approximately 6-7% damage reduction.

Anyway, great guide Xeno, as always. Still having that horrible room tho

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

+20% defense isn't the same as 20% flat damage reduction. I don't know the maths behind this but appearently 20% defense equals approximately 6-7% damage reduction.

Anyway, great guide Xeno, as always. Still having that horrible room tho

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Defense is a very flat line function, and very shallow at that. Every point of defense reduces damage by a 0.0x%. It was ~0.035% per point of defense at level 50. So something like 915 defense (What tanks had at ilv130 with protect) is 40.53% (which is why tanks seem to take half the damage per hit compared other jobs), foresight increased damage reduction to 48.64%. Equaling 8.11% damage reduction.

Sources for calculations used can be found here.

Defense probably lost some value now that we are level 60. But it should still be as linear.

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Originally Posted by Phoenicia

Defense probably lost some value now that we are level 60. But it should still be as linear.

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Yeah, it probably lost some value. I remember some people complaining about how Level 50 duties were stomping on Tanks if they went in unlevelsynced, presumably because new Defense calculations started applying the second they left Level 50.

However, Defense values on gear are rising much faster in 3.0 than they were in 2.0 and i180 left side gear already gives over double the Defense that i130 gear did. Unless the per-point value of defense has been reduced by more than half, we may end up having comparatively more damage reduction from Defense in 3.0 than we had in 2.0 which would make Foresight more valuable due to the increased speed of gear scaling as we climb the raids.

Thanks for the guide xeno! The last one was very helpful and informative, and I look forward to updates for this one.

There was a reddit post that showed the new defensive scaling at 60 is .0001725 per point of defense. If that ends up being accurate it puts my i185 WAR's Foresight at 8.7% physical damage reduction. Assuming that the scaling remains linear if you were in full i210 gear it would be around 12%, which is actually pretty good.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Ideally, though, in fights like AS1 or AS3 you just replace Flash with SW and keep Awareness.

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I like to keep flash for pacification--rather than having my healers have to time esunas on me for those 2 gcds lost, can pop flash flash and keep my threat going before driving back in.