Is Alexander raid missing something? Whole gear drops?

Well that is certainly something I could agree with.

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Originally Posted by Gyson

No, they're just looking to be rewarded for their efforts rather than their luck, which is not unreasonable.

I prefer the system Guild Wars 2 used, where every single person participating in the run receives dungeon currency for their time and effort, and you can save up that currency to eventually purchase gear specific to that dungeon. In this fashion, you are *always* making progress on your goals every time you go to the dungeon. It completely removes randomness out of the equation, and no time is ever wasted on a run that amounted to nothing.

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That's a selfish loot system, honestly.
This loot system isn't bad, it's actually great for statics, because someone will always get something, which progresses your group as a whole, which is much better than everyone getting a little currency to grind.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That's a selfish loot system, honestly.
This loot system isn't bad, it's actually great for statics, because someone will always get something, which progresses your group as a whole, which is much better than everyone getting a little currency to grind.

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WoW had the same thing, called valor points.

They got rid of them.

we could always just not have a normal version of Alexander at all...

I thought the loot system would be just like Ravana/Bismarck where you get gear but if you didn't get anything you get a token for your efforts and when you have enough you can get a piece but seems I was wrong.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That's a selfish loot system, honestly.
This loot system isn't bad, it's actually great for statics, because someone will always get something, which progresses your group as a whole, which is much better than everyone getting a little currency to grind.

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How is that selfish? Everyone got a more general token that could be used to buy any piece of gear for that dungeon. It's just some pieces cost more tokens than others.

I honestly thought that the token system would be like GW2 but I see know that it's still going to be pretty irritating to gear up.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

we could always just not have a normal version of Alexander at all...

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This is why you can't cater to casuals.... they will never be happy. SE needs to please their fans with fun and long lasting content, and focus on that.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That's a selfish loot system, honestly.
This loot system isn't bad, it's actually great for statics, because someone will always get something, which progresses your group as a whole, which is much better than everyone getting a little currency to grind.

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What, exactly, is selfish about rewarding everyone for a group effort?

You seem to be focused on the fact that this is (in your opinion) great for statics, and yet it stinks for non-statics (which happens to represent a majority of the people playing this content).

I'm assuming you're in a static and would argue that your opinion is both a little biased and selfish, honestly. Much more so than the idea of rewarding everyone equally with every run.

I'm still at work so I haven't had the opportunity to run Alexander yet, so can someone clarify something for me. Does a single token drop from each floor? So for a static, that would mean running each floor 8 times, with a total of 4 floors. That's 32 two runs a week. Is this correct?

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

This is why you can't cater to casuals.... they will never be happy. SE needs to please their fans with fun and long lasting content, and focus on that.

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I mean... we asked for this right? like srsly... square did what the casuals wanted and more.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-mode-isn-t-it