Would you SMNs prefer more DPS or more sustain?

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Well, ED buff is out of the question due to being tied to SCH
Piety on Casting gear would be an unbelievable buff for BLM (So much extra time in Astral III ><)

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I would vote for Increased Damage on Spells. Something in the way of
- Bio - Potency 60 - 12s
- Miasma - Potency 55 - 15s
- Bio 2 - Potency 55 - 18s

Higher potency, less uptime and have Contagion attached to the Summoner instead of Garuda.

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That would make our DPS even worse Summoner's would lose around 20% damage. Besides buffing the DoTs would buff the Scholar and make the Summoner even more useless to progression statics.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Higher potency, less uptime and have Contagion attached to the Summoner instead of Garuda.

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I agree. As long as Garuda is the only pet that has Contagion, I feel like no matter what pet they add people will always perfer Garuda because of Contagion. Unless they give us one bad ass Egi that does amazing DPS to make up for the loss of Contagion. But I doubt that.

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Originally Posted by mdha02

I agree. As long as Garuda is the only pet that has Contagion, I feel like no matter what pet they add people will always perfer Garuda because of Contagion. Unless they give us one bad ass Egi that does amazing DPS to make up for the loss of Contagion. But I doubt that.

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Ifrit is the preferred choice among top-end SMN's right now.

I would say put pie on casting gear. They can do like the healer set that some pieces have a little acc+ (like 10 or so) to add them to the casting gear with pie.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

I would say put pie on casting gear. They can do like the healer set that some pieces have a little acc+ (like 10 or so) to add them to the casting gear with pie.

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This could potentially break BLM's, do not like/want this idea. Either Piety on SMN's books or Piety on the soul crystal

I think they should have more base Piety on our soulstone (so we don't indirectly buff BLMs by having piety on caster gear), put Contagion on the SMN to allow more freedom choosing either Garuda or Ifrit (and soon to be Leviathan or Ramuh if they are both DD summons), take the Aetherflow cost off Energy Drain and give it an appropriate cooldown (you can even match it to invigorate's cooldown and have it recover the same % of MP as it would TP or balance it with Shroud for WHMs (since yes this will affect SCH)), and make Enkindle have the same cooldown as Dragonfire Dive.

I honestly think our damage is fine for the most part, just need some quality of life things to help us keep doing our regular rotation.

It takes ~70 Piety for BLM to see a small buff to damage (less than 3%), before factoring in all the lost crit/spsp/det from having piety in that slot. That is far from breaking BLM.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

It takes ~70 Piety for BLM to see a small buff to damage (less than 3%), before factoring in all the lost crit/spsp/det from having piety in that slot. That is far from breaking BLM.

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The Implication of the word could is very powerful here. Fact is BLM's don't need a buff now in any sort of way. Putting Piety on casting gear is a silly idea when there are other ways to apply Piety to ONLY Summoner.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

I would vote for Increased Damage on Spells. Something in the way of

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That suggestion would burn even more mana because need apply dots even more often. Bio2 mana cost is 159 mana miasma 133 and bio 106. Ruin cost only 79 mana. If we need use our globals for everything else than ruin more often, that will burn our mana even faster.

@for Akiza
That enkindle suggestion is not that bad. If I calculated right it increase around 10 - 12 our dps from the current one.

My point is that it wouldn't be a buff for BLM. Putting on that extra piety, your loss of other stats looks like 70 PIE = 100 DET = 140 Crit/SpSp on dungeon/tome gear. Losing 100 DET or 140 Crit or 140 SpSp is a lot more than a 3% drop in damage.

The only reason BLM piety build is viable currently is due to heavily melded crafted gear. For example, 110 Head/Hands/Boots can be melded to -7 INT, +12 PIE ~+14 secondary stats vs 130 gear in those slots, a negligible drop in damage per cast.

For tome/dungeon gear, you would be looking at losing 29 of a secondary stat for 13 piety.