There needs to be some kind of "Intentionally Uncooperative" vote kick option

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Originally Posted by Radacci

but if you got a new pt, its better to just simplify things, and not expect them to properly kite multi-eruptions, without running into other ppl.

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Yes it's best not to have new people learn how to deal with mechanics in a raid and pay attention to their surroundings.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Stunning eruptions can also drop party dps, the paladin isn't as focused on damage since he is always waiting to shield bash

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

By expecting someone to always make a fight easier by stunning damage that you have the ability to avoid, you are supporting those players that refuse to get better and expect to be carried through their content.

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"Intentionally Uncooperative" in my mind can count as harassment, you don't know if they're trolling or not, so no new category required imo.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Stunning eruptions can also drop party dps, the paladin isn't as focused on damage since he is always waiting to shield bash, not to mention dragoons and monks have to keep leg sweep and steel peak out of their rotations, and they can't jump/shoulder tackle back after knockbacks because they will end up causing Ifrit to get resistant to stuns, and everyone will have to dodge anyway.

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That must be a really strong PLD to deal more damage than all DPS together having to dodge eruptions.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

That must be a really strong PLD to deal more damage than all DPS together having to dodge eruptions.

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Not everyone gets eruptions, it hits a few folks at random, if you are a blm brd or smn you can still damage while moving, if you are one of those ranged dps that can't figure out how to still do damage while moving then well maybe you do need someone to hold your hand and stun every eruption for you.

hm .... if it was a newbie group, how are they supposed to know not to use stuns ?
was in one party yesterday and when i got stun resist on first eruption i stopped to care ...
and really ... there is only one eruption which should be stunned for the ease, and thats the one right before "super plumes"

I joined a group over the weekend where two people were there just to get the mapping achievement, and ran past all the mobs trying to find out which area(s) they needed to explore.

I fully support an option that let's us kick people who willfully obstruct the completion of a run.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Stunning eruptions can also drop party dps, the paladin isn't as focused on damage since he is always waiting to shield bash, not to mention dragoons and monks have to keep leg sweep and steel peak out of their rotations, and they can't jump/shoulder tackle back after knockbacks because they will end up causing Ifrit to get resistant to stuns, and everyone will have to dodge anyway.

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I understand being bored and playing Devil's advocate, but what?
The only DPS check in Ifrit is the nail phase. It's must better for the control of the fight to stun eruptions and have a controlled, predictable radiant plume moment pattern. You can't stun all the eruptions in the fight because of his stun resistance anyway. But not trying at all because it'll lower group DPS is bs.

Another thing to mention, stunning helps raise the LB bar quick in case DPS aren't strong enough to kill nails.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

Another thing to mention, stunning helps raise the LB bar quick in case DPS aren't strong enough to kill nails.

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Think that was more the point than dodging eruptions.. and tbh the fight felt designed for that behavior, note how stun is useless in Ex. ^^