Are people forgetting the first relic grind?

I don't mind long-term grind. But fates are just boring.

If you're talking about the first relic quest, then talk about THE first relic in 1.0. The current Zodiac quest is a breeze compared to what some of us did in 1.0. This thread very clearly shows you the amount you had to do for 1 relic. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rn-Walkthrough

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Originally Posted by Eternally

Atma drop rate is fine ...
IT'S NOT HIGH ... Also NOT LOW
Doing like an average of 40fates per map is not that bad ... at least for me (( took me around 18hours to get 12 Atmas )) but still worth it
I enjoyed doing a Win-Win... Farmed for my Weapon also farmed the seals for my crafts to get 2 crafts to master and I think i'll be start farming next weapon ( Atma weapon )

GG SE Keep going

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Look at it from the other side. How would you feel if you spent the same 18hrs and got none? 20? 50? That is where a lot of the frustration comes from.

People are asking for phantasia on the store to buy for crysta, i ask for an Monkey which is doin that brainless crap fate grinding for us.

SE, just stop overusing FATEs damnit. Fates for Quests, for the Story, for events, Relics. FATEs, FATEs, FATEs everywhere and for everything, it gets boring...

And funny how some people are unable to understand that if they got their Atma more or less quickly, it isnt the same for everyone because of that poor RNG.
An FC mate did FATEs for 3 Days and didnt got a single one yet while others have all 12 already. I mean... what the hell?

And no, i dont ask for Relics on Day-1, just for an more fun and special way to get it where some dont have to do 20 times the amount of work which others have to do to aquire it.

I think people are forgetting the REAL original relic quest. Yeah, I speak of 1.0. In the original quest you needed three tokens from each of the three Hamlets that you could defend. The chances of a token dropping were low as is, in order to even have a 'good' chance you had to score perfectly and have one of the top 10 Hamlet crafters in the battle with you. Further, you had to buy a key item from the Companies that cost 25,000 seals but in order to even have the ability to buy it you had to be an officer, which was itself a 25,000 seal requirement. Similar to the current quest, that was all just to get Rowena (who was an Ul'dahn whore at the time) to get you on the path to turn in a specially prepared weapon to forge into your relic, which still required you to fight Ifrit Extreme to finalize. Relics in 1.0 were understandably rare because of all that. We're just two days in and already people have their relics +2 and are working on going +3. Grind... right.

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Originally Posted by Gezeru

If you're talking about the first relic quest, then talk about THE first relic in 1.0. The current Zodiac quest is a breeze compared to what some of us did in 1.0. This thread very clearly shows you the amount you had to do for 1 relic. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rn-Walkthrough

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Damn, beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

We're just two days in and already a few people who happen to be lucky with drops people have their relics +2 and are working on going +3. Grind... right.

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Fixed. There are plenty of people, myself included, who have been grinding these boring low level FATEs for hours and hours without getting a single drop.

Some people should be happy that they haven't did the relict quest in 1.0
Hamlet Defence, I say
1 week only to get 1 seal from 9

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Originally Posted by Felis

Some people should be happy that they haven't did the relict quest in 1.0
Hamlet Defence, I say
1 week only to get 1 seal from 9

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I actually enjoyed FFXI NM drop rates over this, since I knew the item I was after would be an upgrade... But hey, can't win 'em all. I'll just keep capping Soldiery.

Thank god this game isn't FFXI... All the people complaining imagine yourself being the 7th thief in line in a Dynamis-Xarcabard linkshell static (pre-abyssia of course). You ain't getting that drop, unless you ninja'ed that thing...

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Originally Posted by Viore

lol? do u even know what ppl r whining about? i dont think so...they dont whine about all the grinding, they whine about fkin low atma droprates and (becoz of that) extreme boring fate farming. the real grind starts after the arma collecting. i dont see a problem in that 2nd step for relic update, but the first part is rly rly bad coz of RNG...but...there are enough of such threads here...so...just saying the first "relic grind", what u say wasnt even a grind, was totaly not the same we are seeing now.

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The value is low so that you dont go and get it in 2-3 days (at least not the casual player)