Coil lockouts & protection from Griefers

Similar to CT.

So once cleared, can't get drops for previously beaten/skipped turn(s) for the week. which is like CT, except if you don't win anything you get loot locked anyways. I would go even further and say you can't get Tomes for previous turns are well!

Its a super great idea!

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Originally Posted by SaitoHajime

Didn't you only get loot locked from ct once you actually won an item ?

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yes you have to win the lot to get the lock out

never understood why they didn't do it via this path (weekly lock out) cos if you think about it

if oil / sand / gear was locked to 1 loot item a week. It would still take you around 10 - 11 weeks before you have everything in ilvl110 that even with upgrading via soldiery method cos for your weapon alone, it takes 3 weeks of capped soldiery + the item to upgrade the weapon. CT you could be done within 5 weeks in theory if i'm going on past experience especially if you only stuck to one role.

I don't know why people want the actual content be one loot lookout.
Yes, sound godd, but, there are problems.

Ok, Let's farm t6, have you got the piece that you want? No, repeat turn 6. Yes, go help the same group to another member have it.

Do you need anything from t7 o t8? yes, ok, let's farm.

In two-four weeks, you have got all gear that you want and need. So, now what?

SCOB Weekly lookout it's fine

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Originally Posted by rappa

I don't know why people want the actual content be one loot lookout.
Yes, sound godd, but, there are problems.

Ok, Let's farm t6, have you got the piece that you want? No, repeat turn 6. Yes, go help the same group to another member have it.

Do you need anything from t7 o t8? yes, ok, let's farm.

In two-four weeks, you have got all gear that you want and need. So, now what?

SCOB Weekly lookout it's fine

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You misunderstand, maybe I shouldn't have said CT in my original post, since people have clung to it and automatically thought about 1 loot lock out. This is not the case, read my original short post; the word "similar" pops up just before the letters "CT".

An exact copy of the CT loot system would be terrible for Coil, please stop referring to it like this. What I suggested for loot if Coil was not a weekly lock out when cleared was a new system entirely wherein you would get loot locked after clearing regardless if you got loot or not.

This would open up Coil without any major advantages of more loot per week, can't people see? Some have already noticed and posted things that we could do if coil was not a lock out when cleared and only loot was locked.

Things like simply helping an FC member or 2 that have perhaps missed your run and do not want to pug these turns for the rest of the week, you and your group would be able to help them still. Even like someone previously said, helping a group-in-the-making get some good practice(Friends, FC members, w/e.) and a possible clear! You would be able to assist, lol.

Removing the weekly lock out and locking loot once cleared, just makes doing Coil much better. Hell, you could even be apart of multiple groups and you still aren't able to exploit any extra loot. I for one would love to be in some of the other groups in my FC. I enjoy their company and if I can make their runs I'd go for sure! Everyone loves doing Coil, outside of Coil, if I'm being honest, it's rather boring at the moment.

Anyway this was just for clarity on how loot would work. I'd really love if SE would implement this because when you read it and understand it, it just WILL make this game a lot more fun!

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

In patch 2.3 we will be adding a confirmation for the Second Coil of Bahamut that will be displayed when the leader enters a turn. Thank you for your patience while we worked to address this!

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Necrobump.

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Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi

I'd really like Coil to not be a lock out when cleared. Simple reason being that I'd like to be able to assist another group in my FC when they are short on members and not have to make a new character and lvl it for this purpose.

As for how looting would work, if you've already cleared the turn once already then you'd have the looting lock out similar to CT.

This suggestion can only make the game better.

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I can't tell you how many times I've said lockouts are dumb because we can't help our friends. That's the whole purpose of MMOs. Community play! You're breaking it SE, listen to Riko!

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Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi

This would open up Coil without any major advantages of more loot per week, can't people see? Some have already noticed and posted things that we could do if coil was not a lock out when cleared and only loot was locked.

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if only the people who cleared is locked it make it easy to exploit for extra reward:
you have 2static able to clear, instead of making each roster go and then get 2of each loot you have roster 1go then you replace one member with one of roster2.
this player is not loot locked: he can get loots
repeat for each memeber of roster2
=> you got a total of 9oil/UAT/sand
for loot equity next week the roster2 doest the 1st run

in two week everybody got 1loot from each coffers +2extra loot splited.

if anybody who already cleared lock for the full party, people won't want you to come with them

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Originally Posted by rappa

I don't know why people want the actual content be one loot lookout.
Yes, sound godd, but, there are problems.

Ok, Let's farm t6, have you got the piece that you want? No, repeat turn 6. Yes, go help the same group to another member have it.

Do you need anything from t7 o t8? yes, ok, let's farm.

In two-four weeks, you have got all gear that you want and need. So, now what?

SCOB Weekly lookout it's fine

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i disagree with that statement because 2-4 weeks time for completing your gears with weekly loot would be impossible unless it was weekly lockout per turn. but if weekly lock loot were applied to all turns then it would take you around 9-10 weeks to complete your set on 1 job. and a few of us have multiple jobs with a main job we use and maybe 1-2 other jobs we use for other content etc so you wouldn't be done with SCOB 2-4 weeks as some people would still farm it for their alt jobs.

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Originally Posted by Hik0

if only the people who cleared is locked it make it easy to exploit for extra reward:
you have 2static able to clear, instead of making each roster go and then get 2of each loot you have roster 1go then you replace one member with one of roster2.
this player is not loot locked: he can get loots
repeat for each memeber of roster2
=> you got a total of 9oil/UAT/sand
for loot equity next week the roster2 doest the 1st run

in two week everybody got 1loot from each coffers +2extra loot splited.

if anybody who already cleared lock for the full party, people won't want you to come with them

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Other option is one group clear all content and sell tunr 6-9 all time, because they can do it, and the game is full of noobies, empty wallets and ilvl 100+ without experience.
Yo wanna help a friend? do rotations in your raid group or leveling another char. A lookout brings more problems than "help a friend" who can search a static or other group to raid.