Coil being added to DF

there will be also buffs to make turns easier, you need to clear turn 5 in order to unlock the next coils.
a step in the right direction. everything should be in df as far as im concerned so you can get practice runs.

guess people that were screaming no coils for df got told hard.

also jp players complaining about lag and titan ex knock outs from ring. yoshi : "learn the rotation".
i guess that 20+ page thread about lag is going to still get ignored.

This is great. Eventually it will be CT difficulty so everyone can progress to the new BC content.

No lockout, player buff. SE is serious about accessibility.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I missed that part. Is it only turns 1-5? And I don't see any good coming out of removing the lockouts.

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How about gear that never dropped actually drop? The only bad I see out of this is people attempting to sell runs again. Other than that, it's good for the community.
People will get acquainted with how endgame content like Coil "is". Even with the nerf to it, they can see how it is supposed to work.

No lockouts for 1-5.

They're going to keep it the way it is for 6+ and also have new tomes. Also have to beat T5 to move on, which is fine. CT lockout kinda pointless now though.

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Originally Posted by razzgrizz3

also jp players complaining about lag and titan ex knock outs from ring. yoshi : "learn the rotation".
i guess that 20+ page thread about lag is going to still get ignored.

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Didn't he say the same thing about WAR 2.0? Basically "lrn2play?" I wouldn't be surprised if Titan was randomly nerfed or adjusted in the near future.

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Originally Posted by Xairos

Ppl ask for the lockout then ask for it to be removed, then feel the weight of said removal. Ahh MMOs I love em.

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Except I never asked for Coil's lockout to be removed, because I know why lockouts are there in the first place.

That said, so they're basically nerfing 1-5 since 6-9 will be the current tier. I have no qualms with that. I just hope I don't see anyone crying about their time spent farming turns 1-5 or something.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Except I never asked for Coil's lockout to be removed, because I know why lockouts are there in the first place.

That said, so they're basically nerfing 1-5 since 6-9 will be the current tier. I have no qualms with that. I just hope I don't see anyone crying about their time spent farming turns 1-5 or something.

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Yeah I am of two minds about it. I can appreciate the lockout removal. But I fear people will pressure players to get i90 even faster now since they know you can just farm it out.

Problem with nerfing it is people won't have the "Yes we finally did it!" That you get from finishing a turn you were trying for ages to get. I know it's to allow more people to access content which I think is great but hopefully they don't make it a FaceRoll.

Working on T5 just now so hopefully pass it before the nerf.

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Originally Posted by Kal-El

Problem with nerfing it is people won't have the "Yes we finally did it!" That you get from finishing a turn you were trying for ages to get. I know it's to allow more people to access content which I think is great but hopefully they don't make it a FaceRoll.

Working on T5 just now so hopefully pass it before the nerf.

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Ill will have that finally feeling. Keep in mind that most players wont know about the nerf aside from hearing it from their fc mates and anyone who wanted to bring their achievement down.

But I know when i kill it, it wont have been at its best. That is fine by me.

^ except that's going to happen and for good reason.

It's why a lot of us are upset about the direction of the game. Where's the fun in basically living from patch to patch, where everything you "worked" for becomes meaningless after 1 patch? XI was a huge success for years because it didn't do that, it added new content to give players lots of options and it was fun because of that in spite of it being at times, an overly difficult game.

Here we have the opposite - a mostly better made game that just throws out old content. So much for the "theme park" aspect - it's not really a theme park if only the newest rides are worth trying out.