Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

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Originally Posted by Whitefang

First feeding 25 x Mamook Pear 5 x Doman Plums 5 x Cieldalaes Pineapple turned into Apple Green

http://i.imgur.com/SJCRPe2.jpg

Second feeding 10 x Mamook Pear 5 x Xelphatol Apple x 5 O'ghomoro Berries

Got the message of him growing new feathers on first Pear and last Berry

Will post results in 5 hours time ~♪

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Since order seems to be the deciding factor, what order did you feed your chocobo to get apple green?

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Originally Posted by Renik

Oh if i'm right the number of messages doesn't matter if you keep feeding the same fruit, because the system would show it again with every feed, so we can't know when a feed of the same fruit is getting the chocobo to a new tier of color after the first message.

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Not true... when you use only one fruit you hit a cap where you no longer get this message. This shows that there are levels and a cap for each fruit. People just need to document this but they are so fixated on that damn spreadsheet no one seems to be listening.

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Originally Posted by Percyphanie

Not true... when you use only one fruit you hit a cap where you no longer get this message. This shows that there are level and a cap. Please just need to document this but they are so fixated on that damn spreadsheet no one seems to be listening.

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Right, and there's a cap of 255 and 0, and of course there could be a a cap on how many times you can feed your chocobo during the 6h wait time, but this doesn't break my theory about the messages.

Chocobo Dye Experimentation Thread


I created a new thread for controlled experiments to find out exactly how the fruits work. I'd to make this a very organized set of experiments, instead of just people throwing fruit at the birds. If you're interested, I'd love to have some help.

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Originally Posted by Fuma

Since order seems to be the deciding factor, what order did you feed your chocobo to get apple green?

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If i remember right it was 15 Pears > 5 plums > 5 Pineapples > 10 Pears.

First off, wanted to say this thread has been both a blessing and a curse to my curiosity!! Congrats to everyone who got their colors, and good luck to everyone else who's shooting for different ones!

I just wanted to post that I'm running a few tests at the moment; since everyone seems to have posted everything in batches of 20-30+ fruits/berries in a single 6 hour period. This is not how my experience has been, but, I figure I'll try it the other way and see where it goes.

Originally I was gunning after Soot Black, before this thread really took off.

1st 6hr Period // Stable: Fair
Fed 1xDoman Plum, did not receive any message of "... growing new feathers!"
Waited.
2nd 6hr Period // Stable: Good
Fed 3xValfruit, received message of "... growing new feathers!"
Chocobo ended up being Salmon Pink!
3rd 6hr Period // Stable : Good
Fed 1xPineapple (received message), 1xValfruit (received message), and 9xDoman Plum (received message).
Chocobo ended up being Bone White!

I'm going to toss some of the lightening fruits at him again, see if I can get soot black, as that is my goal. I don't have screenshots, as I wasn't thinking of them at the time. (Far more consumed on trying to get the actual color than I was of recording data. I am however recording data like crazy.)

Few of my FC mates used formulas on this thread to achieve their colors, so I'm assuming that they're just as lucky or the formulas work when starting from a non-dyed bird. (I don't think stable cleanliness has anything to do with this, but I recorded it for the sake of information.)

Hello all,

I have a Ceruleum Blue choco. It's almost black. I've had a few requests ask how I got the elusive black choco, lol. I haven't the foggiest idea of how to screenshot it as I am on PS4, but if anyone on Hyperion wants to, just hit me up in-game. I used 23 berries, 11 pears, 9 apples, all in one session. I got the changing feathers message almost constantly and I rotated what I used. I generally used 2-3 berries for every pear or apple used.

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Originally Posted by AjoraUninspired

But my results so far make very little sense, considering the 'Darkens Green' fruit resulted in both a lighter and darker shade in two seperate sessions.

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Read the fruit(s) description again.
Like a lot of people, you're mistaking "deepen" for "darken", which are absolutly not the same thing.

In this context, "deepen" means "reinforce", while "lighten" means "weaken".
So, feeding your chocobo with more and more pears should make it more and more green.

I just feed my choco, if the values on my theory are partially right i should get Snow white.

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Originally Posted by Fuma

Since order seems to be the deciding factor, what order did you feed your chocobo to get apple green?

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Sorry, but this does not seem to be the case since some have fed their birds a certain number of just one fruit and gotten drastically different results:

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Originally Posted by ZReport

Copy Paste over from R&D:

There's no reason for the the two people who reported getting Raptor Blue and Othard Blue from 21 O'Ghomoro Berries to lie. So some form of RNG is definitely involved. It's interesting to note that three people who reported in after 12 and 11 O'Ghomoro Berry feeds got Goobbue Grey, Gobbiebag Brown and Lilac Purple respectively. If you include the Shale Brown from my first session it would seem that just feeding a couple of Berries alone brings the color down the light grey/brown scale, if there is one.

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Originally Posted by Zanhe

Mine somehow ended up bone white
Does anyone know what I should do for it to become snow white?

Somehow ended up even more confused than before..

I assume I should feed it more pineapples?

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feed it an O'Ghomoro Berry till you get the 'feather' message and then post result.

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Originally Posted by Renik

Right, and there's a cap of 255 and 0, and of course there could be a a cap on how many times you can feed your chocobo during the 6h wait time, but this doesn't break my theory about the messages.

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Whoevever came up with this cap of 255 and 0 is also not thinking correctly... sorry. This isn't photoshop.. there are not 255 levels of each color in this game... that would produce 256x256x256x256x256x256 colors... we don't have that many colors... give up this theory. Stick to the simple facts... when you get the message that your have grown new feathers your chocobo will change colors. Now, lets document 1 O'Ghomoro berry (that created this message), then 2, then 3, then 4, etc until we hit the cap (which again isn't 255). Its actually a simple process but people got the wrong method in their heads so only a few are actually documenting what is relevant.

Controlled experiment thread over here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...xperimentation

Turquoise Green

http://i.minus.com/i5IKRCTd7J8ib.png

I got it from a total of 13 pears, and 20 berries. I did 3 pears in the first round, no change. Second round I did 20 berries, followed by 10 pears.

At a loss... Since the person going grape purple did around 65 darken red, 20 darken blue, and 30 lighten green. While I did 20 darken blue, 17 darken red, and 21 lighten green, and got Regal purple, when I was aiming for Grape Purple. So, I went with 10x more darken red, and five more lighten green on my Regal purple. Ended up this morning with Dalamud Red.
What should I add now if I wanted Grape purple? I'm thinking some darken green, and darken blue?

First feeding was 25 apples (deepen red) and got Sunset Orange.
Second feeding was 3 pineapples (lighten green) and its now Pumpking Orange.

I prefer the Sunset Orange so im going to deepen the green even more then it was to see if I get a darker shade then the Sunset Orange.

I'm starting to think it depends on what fruit you start with and then it adjusts along that scale... Once I have my fruit I'm going to try feeding apples (darken red) first and see if that doesn't get me where I need to go.

Edit: To clarify saying darken red fruit - get message - okay we're on the red scale, (feathers message) darken the red, (feathers message) darken the red, (feathers message) darken the red - lighten green fruit - okay lets take some green from that red - (feathers message) lighten the green, (feathers message) lighten the green, (feathers message) lighten the green - darken blue fruit - okay lets add some blue to that red - (feathers message) darken the blue, (feathers message) darken the blue, (feathers message) darken the blue - result

I hope that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by GenesisNight

First feeding was 25 apples (deepen red) and got Sunset Orange.
Second feeding was 3 pineapples (lighten green) and its now Pumpking Orange.

I prefer the Sunset Orange so im going to deepen the green even more then it was to see if I get a darker shade then the Sunset Orange.

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Are you able to share a screenshot of your Sunset Orange for me?

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Originally Posted by Percyphanie

Whoevever came up with this cap of 255 and 0 is also not thinking correctly... sorry. This isn't photoshop.. there are not 255 levels of each color in this game... that would produce 256x256x256x256x256x256 colors... we don't have that many colors... give up this theory. Stick to the simple facts... when you get the message that your have grown new feathers your chocobo will change colors. Now, lets document 1 O'Ghomoro berry (that created this message), then 2, then 3, then 4, etc until we hit the cap (which again isn't 255). Its actually a simple process but people got the wrong method in their heads so only a few are actually documenting what is relevant.

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We don't have that many colors, but i think the system is working on this scale rounding the result towards a color or another, it doesn't matter how you disguise it, this is a game and it has to use RGB.

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Originally Posted by Tahldon

Are you able to share a screenshot of your Sunset Orange for me?

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Im at work now but there is a good pic of sunset orange on page 41.

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Originally Posted by Renik

We don't have that many colors, but i think the system is working on this scale rounding the result towards a color or another, it doesn't matter how you disguise it, this is a game and it has to use RGB.

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Definitly not true at all on the scale of dying our chocobos.

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Originally Posted by Keroa

Fed mine the listed amount for iris purple. I suspect I'll get a different shade, here are my noted feeds vs "new feather" messages.
4 berries
1 valfruit
"rubens begins to grow new feathers"
2 berries
new feathers
1 valfruit
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 valfruit
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 valfruit
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers
1 berry
new feathers

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Results were Lavender Purple

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Originally Posted by Renik

We don't have that many colors, but i think the system is working on this scale rounding the result towards a color or another, it doesn't matter how you disguise it, this is a game and it has to use RGB.

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The game doesn't have to use RNG.
If a+b=c. There is no RNG with that.
So if (1) O'ghomoro berry feathers message + (1) Doman plum feather message = (place color here)... and that works every time... its not RNG.

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Originally Posted by SinisterIsBack

Definitly not true at all on the scale of dying our chocobos.

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Let's make it simple i based my last feed on my theory. if i'm right i will have a snow white chocobo in 5h+ if not, i'm wrong and i'll try the other theory after feeding my choco a han lemon.

Forgive my ignorance, this is all so confusing. Which path should i take if i want white from Celeste Green? Pineapples?

I want to be able to save the colors I've tested/ended up with so I can pick them if I want later on and not have to grow or buy the food again and spend the ti

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Originally Posted by lvicious

I want to be able to save the colors I've tested so I can pick them if I want later on and not have to grow or buy the food again and spend the time.

This is very helpful. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...li=1&sle=true#

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it's not. It's totally inaccurate as the game takes other things in consideration than # of fruits used

Noted. Removed. lol.

Ugh, I give up for now. My bird wont change from honey yellow no matter what I feed him. Only thing I haven't tried is feeding him the one that changes him back to his original color. Just planted that now.

I fed 20 Mamook Pears and 11 O'Ghomoro Berries and ended up with Cactuar Green.

http://i.imgur.com/EYrYva3.jpg

UPDATE: Here is the story so far. I want black, so I tried the Slate Gray combination on the spreadsheet, which gave me Plum Purple. So, I fed my chocobo 1 Xelphatol Apple, 1 O'Ghomoro Berry, and 4 Mamook Pear and now I have Mole Brown. I guess that is closer to black? So, this morning I fed my chocobo 3 Mamook Pears, 2 Xelphatol Apples, and 2 O'Ghomoro Berries. I got the color change msg on the second apple and the second berry, no message on the pears. We will see... With my luck, the message appearing on red and blue probably means it will go back to purple or something.

Well, 2 new feathers are growing pineapples from Sylph green made Cream Yellow. :/
What should I do for green? I'd love Apple/Turquoise or Hunter. Suggestions?

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Originally Posted by Psychosamm

Did mine twice, first was 3 pineapple> 5 valfruit> 1 apple turned into millioncorn yellow.

Tried again 6 Valfruit> 3 apples turned into Coral Pink.

It seems like its based mostly on what fruit you use first.

http://i.imgur.com/H9DMUiL.jpg

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Last night i decided to take a risk to get what i want. I fed it Doman plums until i got the growing new feathers message, which equaled 4 plums. This morning i got the color Rose Pink which is what i wanted!!!

First fed (1x plum), nothing happened.

Second fed (5x plums) i got Honey Yellow

Third fed (10x doman plums, 10x Pineapples, 10x val fruit) i got Bone Yellow

Fourth fed (10x Doman plums, 10x pineapples, 10x val fruit): Waiting...

Not super happy thus far. I think my first Light Blues steered me off course towards my desired Snow White. Hoping that once one of them "caps out" if that's possible, adding more will have me hit white. That's considdering a "255, 255, 255" system, and not one where it simply shifts the more you give it of one color.

Feeding 1 berry @ Lilac Purple gave me Lavender Purple. I assume this a translation error then? There is no dye called Lavender Purple. It's called Lavender Blue as a dye.

EDIT: Fed the chocobo 1 berry and got the growing new plumage message.

http://i.imgur.com/kaWfX4x.jpg?1

Seeing if this works...I'm getting flooded with questions how I got it black.

It isn't. It's Ceruleum Blue.

After much too convoluted of a process, here is the pic. Not sure if this is even going to work.

http://imgur.com/HPeW1Qm

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Originally Posted by Jyntix

Feeding 1 berry @ Lilac Purple gave me Lavender Purple. I assume this a translation error then? There is no dye called Lavender Purple. It's called Lavender Blue as a dye.

http://i.imgur.com/kaWfX4x.jpg?1

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Did you get a growing new feathers message when you fed it that one berry?

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Originally Posted by lyricmacabre

http://www.upvector.com/pages/Tutori...lorsystems.png

Very helpful image here. This one too- someone else had posted it before, so I take no credit for it, just reposting.

http://i.imgur.com/hM7nSVe.jpg

If you have yellow, and you're wanting a green bird you might want to try some plums or pears.

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Nice. Hopefully get more feedback in this thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...entation/page2

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Originally Posted by ZReport

Did you get a growing new feathers message when you fed it that one berry?

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Yes I did, let me go edit that into the post really quick. Sorry bout that.

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Originally Posted by Shyluv

Ugh, I give up for now. My bird wont change from honey yellow no matter what I feed him. Only thing I haven't tried is feeding him the one that changes him back to his original color. Just planted that now.

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How much did you feed him and did you leave him in the stables for six hours like you're supposed to?